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Larry Va.

03-07-2000 04:27:39




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Found a N with rod thru block thinking about v8 Would like some thoughts What am I gettin in to?? Just rebuilt my 48 this would be a new toy.




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Henry

03-07-2000 19:49:28




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 Re: 8N Conversion in reply to Larry Va., 03-07-2000 04:27:39  
I am sure I am repeating myself but: The N was made to an N, so enjoy it and don't mess with it.



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Jim(UT)

03-08-2000 06:21:24




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 Re: Re: 8N Conversion in reply to Henry, 03-07-2000 19:49:28  
But this one's already messed with (rod thru the block, remember?). Since you already have the flathead V8 and you'd like a novelty item, I say go for it, you'll never have a better chance or a better excuse.



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bg

03-07-2000 12:37:25




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 Re: 8N Conversion in reply to Larry Va., 03-07-2000 04:27:39  
One of my fantasies is installing one of the Ford turbo-charged 4-cylinder engines from a Cougar or T-Bird. I forget what year they were used, but I think that would be a bad little rascal and wouldn't involve major hood surgery like a V-8 conversion. They're supposed to have a lot of torque and power.



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Claus

03-07-2000 14:41:06




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 Re: Re: 8N Conversion in reply to bg, 03-07-2000 12:37:25  
You are giving your age away, when you tell of fantasies like that.... Anyway, those little four bangers develop their hp at high RPM. Not what you would want in a tractor. You want at least a square engine, or longer stroke... that has torque on the low end...
Happy Fantasies
Claus



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Ed Gooding (VA)

03-08-2000 03:17:18




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 Re: Re: Re: 8N Conversion in reply to Claus, 03-07-2000 14:41:06  
Yep, you'd never get a turbo to spool up enough to build any power. If normally aspirated ain't your thing, then you could hang a blower (supercharger) on it. That'll give you power out of the gate, with no lag like a turbocharger. Plus, that sucker would look really cool rising up out of the hole you'd cut in the hood (after moving the gas tank under the seat.) Then you could hang a nitrous bottle on that baby and your only problem would be how to deploy your braking chute without the lines getting tangled in your hitch arms or plow.

I guess that sucker would run in N-Gas class, huh?

LOL..... ...Ed
'52 8N475798
'90 steel blue coupe (BLU JOY)
406ci Torque Monster, ZF6, Z51, FX3

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Jim(UT)

03-08-2000 06:19:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N Conversion in reply to Ed Gooding (VA), 03-08-2000 03:17:18  
Not enough classes at the drags to accomodate an N. Need to bring it to Bonneville Salt Flats where they have a class for EVERYTHING. And if they don't, they'll make one up. Wonder what the Land Speed Record is for an N? Third week in August. See you there!



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Nolan

03-07-2000 07:34:27




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 Re: 8N Conversion in reply to Larry Va., 03-07-2000 04:27:39  
Using one of the kits, it's not that involved a job to do. But why do you want to do it, that's significant.

If you want more power, this is a waste. The N's limited mostly by traction, so more engine misses the boat. A hundred series tractor will out pull you on any given day, and a thousand series will out pull both on any given day. Having more power in the engine does not equate with having more power at the wheels. Though it will give you more power at the pto.

The tractors survive this modification just fine. The transmission is not fragile. Second gear is almost fragile though. Same with the clutch. The rear end is from the trucks, and it isn't fragile either. Of course, if you spend your time trying to rip 4 bottom plows out of the ground by dumping the clutch with the v-8, things will break. The N wasn't designed to barely be able to handle the stock 4 cylinder engine, by a long shot.

If you want it because you think it's just plain neat, and you can afford it, go for it. It certainly is neat in a novelty sort of way.

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Claus

03-07-2000 07:01:35




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 Re: 8N Conversion in reply to Larry Va., 03-07-2000 04:27:39  
Forgeddaboutit. Unless you are looking for a novelty and like people to go "Geez lookitdat"
This is overpowering the N. All machines are designed as a system. Early Hotrodders found that out when the clutch came through the floorboards with unpleasant consequeces with their souped up vehicles. Also a lot of axels and rear ends broke. The transmission, and rest of the system is not designed for it...
Happy Motoring
Claus

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henry

03-07-2000 19:41:20




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 Re: Re: 8N Conversion in reply to Claus, 03-07-2000 07:01:35  
You are over my head, but I want to say Amen to what Claus and others have said. It is a very unique machine and to try and make it something that it is not is not the way to go. Enjoy our friend the N.



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larry VA

03-08-2000 04:45:58




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 Re: Re: Re: 8N Conversion in reply to henry, 03-07-2000 19:41:20  
all ' good advice. I have a flathead v8, my Idea is to have something differnt so Ithought about putting it in there just for fun



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Then go for it. Good luck.... Bill OH

03-08-2000 08:42:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N Conversion in reply to larry VA, 03-08-2000 04:45:58  
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