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Joe

10-10-1999 14:13:52




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How can I best use my 8N to move a pallet of bricks. I do not have a loader. Just the tractor and a box blade. Are the hydraulics strong enough to lift the bricks? And if so, then what? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!




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Nolan @erols.com

10-13-1999 06:14:48




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 Re: 8N and a pallet of bricks in reply to Joe, 10-10-1999 14:13:52  
Fwiw, I have 1000 lb counterweights for my loader. My 8N cannot pick one of these weights off the ground due to leverage angles, but once the weight is about 1/3 to 1/2 the way up via the come-a-long, the lift can pick it up the rest of the way by itself.

With this much weight on board, steering is almost exclusively via wheel brakes, as the front tires are barely touching the ground.



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JOHN

10-11-1999 08:54:05




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 Re: 8N and a pallet of bricks in reply to Joe, 10-10-1999 14:13:52  
Wow, that is a lot of posts!!
I have an 8 N with a set of pallet forks, which I use to move apple bins around. Now, an empty bin weighs ~150 lbs, and full can weigh as much as 1300 lbs total. I cannot move a really full aplple bin, but I can move one that is 3/4 full (barely). The main problem seems to be the front end coming off the ground, but even so, the already mentioned overly full bin will not be lifted a smidgen, even with the front end starting to float. My guess would be that the absolute max would be ~1000 lbs. It is a little hard to get a load on or off the bed of a pickup, because the 3 point hitch will not quite lift up enough to handle it. If you have a low spot to put your pickup in, then you can do it. There is another alternative (which I'm consiidering): get a conventiona fork lift mast and hydraulic system, and get the fork on the back end of the tractor with a two stage mast. Then add LOTS of weight on the front end, and never drive real fast (unless you like to replace spindles). I know this will work, because I know a guy that has one. This type of arrangement was made for tractors lifting pallates in the field, and is adaptable to just about any tractor, but the lower practical limit is probably the N series tractor. My wife's cousin Richard has a Ford 631 with this type of system and it has a capacity of about 2500 lbs., lifted to about 8-9 ft high.
Good luck :>)
JOHN

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dave

10-10-1999 19:26:40




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 Re: 8N and a pallet of bricks in reply to Joe, 10-10-1999 14:13:52  
the N is rated to 700 pounds lift capacity, basically if your front end is coming up and the load is staying on the ground..its too heavy..I lifted some pretty hefty loads but lost all steering ..front wheels barely touched the ground..

dave



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Jim(UT)

10-10-1999 15:18:03




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 Re: 8N and a pallet of bricks in reply to Joe, 10-10-1999 14:13:52  
I wish I were you. An implement dealer in my town has a brand new 3 point pallet fork for $187 that I really want, but don't need. If I had a pallet of bricks to move I'd be down there writing a check right now (well, tomorrow; they're closed on Sunday). I'm sorry I don't know the weight capacity of the N's lift. The pallet forks on sale are rated for 3000 lbs and designed for a cat 1 hitch if that's any indication. What does a pallet of bricks weigh anyway?

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brickhead

10-10-1999 16:03:24




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 Re: Re: 8N and a pallet of bricks in reply to Jim(UT), 10-10-1999 15:18:03  
a common brick weighs about 4 1/2 lbs each. how many bricks are on the pallet? Just multiply and you know the weight. i doubt that a 8n tractor 3 pt. can lift more than 1200 lbs or so, maybe not that much even!



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Ron from IL

10-10-1999 16:20:53




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 Re: Re: Re: 8N and a pallet of bricks in reply to brickhead, 10-10-1999 16:03:24  
Someone said that a GOOD 8N could lift around 800#. I know I've lifted nearly that much with my 2N without trouble. Ron



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Jim(UT)

10-10-1999 18:53:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N and a pallet of bricks in reply to Ron from IL, 10-10-1999 16:20:53  
What about an 800 series. Besides the bigger engine, bigger tires, longer wheelbase, etc etc, did Ford also give it more muscle in the lift? That's what I have. No point buying 3000 lb pallet forks if the tractor can only lift 1200 lbs. I know some of you Ners also own the later redbellies. What's your opinion of the difference in lift capacity (if there is one)? Thanks.
P.S. This all assumes the hydraulics are in good shaped to begin with.

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Hey busdriver

10-10-1999 22:09:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N and a pallet of bricks in reply to Jim(UT), 10-10-1999 18:53:41  
I have a 8N and a 801, there is no comparison in the hydraulics. My 8N works good and have no problems with the lift, I have a rear mounted scoup, size approximately 28 in wide by 28 in deep by 12 in high and when I fill it overfull of sand it will lift it but works at lifting it slowly. My 801 I have lifted without any problem, several times the front or back end of my pickup truck (full size GMC 1/2 T) off the ground to the full height of the lift, tractor staying completly level. As far as I am concerned the later model tractors were far better with their hydraulics, but don't forget the 9N's were the first with the 3 point hitch and hydraulics followd by the 2N&8N. They are great tractor for their age.
Stan

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Jim(UT)

10-10-1999 23:00:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N and a pallet of bricks in reply to Hey busdriver, 10-10-1999 22:09:54  
Thanks, Stan. That's kind of what I envisioned as one of the projected uses when I eventually get those pallet forks....jacking up other vehicles. My hydraulics seem to be really strong....will hold the side rake in the air for at least 3 hours after shutting it off. But I don't know how heavy the rake is. It would have held it longer but I decided that was enough of a test and I let it back down. You know, I was originally going to get an N as well as the 850, but now that I have the 800 maybe I'll be too spoiled to really enjoy the N. Wife put her foot down anyway; said 1 tractor is enough for now. She still needs some work :)

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Bruce

10-10-1999 19:52:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N and a pallet of bricks in reply to Jim(UT), 10-10-1999 18:53:41  
rather than lift it why don't you get a pallet puller for 50 bucks and drag the whole shootin match all over town. you could pull a large load with no problem



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