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Larry Edington

09-28-1999 17:43:04




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Bought a 1950 model 8N yesterday and have a few questions.

If I pull the lift control lever full back, the lift will go up. If I turn the tractor off, the lift will immediately drop down slowly. If I don't have the lever almost full back, it won't lift at all.

Would this likely be the fault of a leaky lift cylinder?

The guy I bought it from said the lever on the right side under the lift lever was the 'draft control'. Ok, what's a draft control? How should the lift react in relationship to this lever? Didn't think to ask this then. I thought it would be obvious what it was for.

I'm an electronics engineer and don't know beans about tractors. Yep, I'm one of those yuppies that moved away from the city to the country.

Thanks.

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EricG.NH

09-29-1999 05:08:04




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 Re: 8N Newbie in reply to Larry Edington, 09-28-1999 17:43:04  
Dear Newbie(Larry),
Here's some other newbie type advise. The first third of the fun is using your tractor. If you've never had the chance before you'll enjoy how much time and effort this kind of machine can save. Surprizingly, your not alone. Many, if not most, of us do not farm professionally. We'd probably graduate to a different tractor if we did. The Ns are a combination "great tool" and hobby. Above all, be smart! People die on tractors! Harsh? You bet! Think! Ask! P.S. I'm an EE as well. Because of all of this, resources are everything. Obviously you've found one of best, this board and it's particpants, including the occasional troll and tractor war( ... a little spice...). Here are some others:
The Archives. You can search through past posts on all the boards. Invaluable!
The N-Newsletter. A quarterly publication dedicated to Ns! Check out: www.n-news.com In addition to the newsletter and it's back issues, they reprint several articles, brochures, instruction sheets and manuals.
Manuals! While on the subject...I reccommend a service manual and the master parts catalog, if you plan on doing your own maintenance and fix-ups(which is the second, third of the fun, sort of!?!) Another nicety is the Owners manual. For about $10 you get good descriptions of all the controls, draft and position controls/operation, and plowing. Plus classic shots of Ford engineers in lab coats. Part Sources. Everyone has they're favorites. There are several to choose from and use. YT has a good list and there's usually a New Holland or CT dealer within driving distance. They can be great resources for more than just parts. Many also sell used parts, after all there were 500,000+ Ns made. Not to sound too goofy, but the other resource is YOU. Take every opportunity to foster and cultivate positive relationships with everyone you come in contact with. Give and take. Some call it networking I call it the last and best third of the fun. Worth more than the tractor, in my opinion. Sure, there's the occasional nut roll, but that's the exception. Don't forget about the "give" part. Share what you know and learn. Sorry for the long post, and welcome aboard,
Eric

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JerryU

09-29-1999 06:10:31




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 Re: Re: 8N Newbie in reply to EricG.NH, 09-29-1999 05:08:04  
Eric has hit the nail on the head and covered all the points except the one that says these machines are addictive. Beware. You will spend hours working on it, derive great enjoyment, and develop some good friendships over this aging piece of equipment.

By the way, add me to your list of EE's {gosh, three in one place-better not stand to close to one another or someone will throw in a grenade:-)}

JerryU

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Charlie in TX EE

09-29-1999 19:55:37




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 Re: Re: Re: 8N Newbie in reply to JerryU, 09-29-1999 06:10:31  
I too am an EE. I guess we have a nerd fest going. Maybe this boards name should be change to Geeks on N's.

If you are going to be bush hog'n, check for an over run coupler (ORC). A good way to tell if you have working one is to point tractor in a safe direction, engage the pto and 1st gear, get the tractor going, then press on the cluch. If the bush hog keeps spining and the tractor stops, you have an OCR. If the tractor and bush hog stop at the same time and some distance from were you pushed the cluch, buy and install an ORC. They are about 65 bucks.

eNjoy

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Larry Edington

10-02-1999 22:48:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N Newbie in reply to Charlie in TX EE, 09-29-1999 19:55:37  
Geeks on N's. Love it! Or maybe N Nerds.

My hydraulic problem seems to have been 1.5 gallons low on hydraulic oil. It's working great now. The pump must have been sucking in a little air.

I bush hogged for about 30 minutes and discovered an overrun coupling was a must. With it on it's a much nicer machine.

Now if I just had a slower low gear.

I've got to adjust or replace brakes, replace one front tire and then I should be set for several years of tractoring.

Thanks Larry E.

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bg

09-28-1999 20:09:57




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 Re: 8N Newbie in reply to Larry Edington, 09-28-1999 17:43:04  
The 8N had position control and draft control. The 9/2 had only automatic draft control. Draft control refers to the self-correcting mechanism of the hydraulic system when pulling a plow. When the plow is down in the dirt, the system will attempt to keep it a constant level as the hydraulic system is activated by the pressure of the top link on the internal valves and linkage. It's either up or down, w/o much control in between.

Position control bypasses the draft feature(the selector should be vertical)allowing the touch control handle to set the implement at any desired level, as when using a blade or bush-hog.
If the lift won't remain at a set position in "position control" then the system probably needs repair. An I&T FO-4 manual will give the basic of lift repair and adjustment.

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