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8N Transmission is Locked

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Gary

06-15-1999 05:31:42




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I have just been given a Ford 8N tractor. It belonged to a friend of the familys and had been sitting for a couple of years. It was working OK before that. My problem is that I got it started, loaded it on a trailer and moved it to my place, and as soon as I backed it off the trailer the transmission locked up in 4th gear. I took the shifter off and found that that the fluid was milky. It looked like some moisture got in the transmission while it was sitting. It doesn't look like anything is corroded though. I know I need to flush it and change the fluid, but can anyone tell me what I need to do to get it to shift again? I can't move it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Gary

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Nolan

06-15-1999 05:42:45




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 Re: 8N Transmission is Locked in reply to Gary, 06-15-1999 05:31:42  
How do you know it's locked into 4th gear if you were backing up (using reverse presumably)?

Regardless, I would expect the tractor has managed to engage two gears at the same time. It happens, especialy with old shifters. With the shifter cover off, look at the three forks, and using a suitable pry bar (I like screwdrivers) work all three into the neutral position. The transmission will then be freed up, if it's locked by this means.

If a transmission does this once, it will often do it again. Look at the linkage and determine what is worn/broken/bent/etc that is allowing it to do this.

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Gary

06-15-1999 06:29:59




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 Re: Re: 8N Transmission is Locked in reply to Nolan, 06-15-1999 05:42:45  
I didn't back it off the trailer so I am not sure. I think that when he backed it off and tried to shift into a forward gear it got stuck. Anyway you say to work the three forks into neutral position. How will I know what position is neutral? Will it be apparant when I start moving the forks? Also what direction should the forks be moved? Sorry if my questions seem real basic but I have a fair amount of mechanical experience with cars but none with tractors. Once I get it freed I will look for the cause. Thanks, Gary.

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Nolan

06-15-1999 07:27:01




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 Re: Re: Re: 8N Transmission is Locked in reply to Gary, 06-15-1999 06:29:59  
When you lift the shifter cover off the transmission you will be able to clearly see the gears and the three shifter forks, with their groves that the end of the shift lever slides into. The forks move front to back, with the three of them aligned side by side. In true neutral, all three will be lined up to allow the shifter to move back and forth across neutral, allowing you to select whatever gear you want.

You will be able to feel pretty readily when a fork is in neutral by prying it fore and aft. You will also very quickly catch on to the visuals of how this motion moves a collar onto splines engaging the various gears. The gears themselves are constant mesh, with this splined collar engaging and disengaging various ones. As you familiarize yourself with this particular transmission, you will probably be able to see which ones are engaged as the tractor sits right now.

It will take a bit of force to move these shifter forks. After all, just think of the leverage you have with the shift lever. But of course don't go bonkers with a huge pry bar and sledge hammer trying to move things. It's just that they do not shift positions with your finger twiddling them. Sometimes I do use a hammer to tap them, but never to whale on them. They can be bound up pretty hard when stuck in two gears. Once you've familiarized yourself with the neutral position on the one free moving lever and by looking at where the stuck forks are, you may need to apply some judicious force.

These forks are ball detented (I think), so that will also give you a feel for neutral.

Don't worry, it's really a pretty simple thing once you're in there. Gives you a nice sense of accomplishment when you're done.

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E. Allison

06-16-1999 09:22:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N Transmission is Locked in reply to Nolan, 06-15-1999 07:27:01  
When my 8N tranny locked the shifters couldn't be moved without breaking something. I rotated the engine backwards a rev or so to "unwind the tranny". The shift forks could then be moved easily. EEA



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Gary

06-15-1999 08:53:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N Transmission is Locked in reply to Nolan, 06-15-1999 07:27:01  
Thanks, I will check it out when I go back to my property in a couple of weeks. You guys will probably be hearing from me again. I plan to go through this tractor and do what is necessary to make it reliable enough to get my mowing done. Gary.



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