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Aluminum shifter cover repair

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Dan

07-10-2007 19:59:29

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Looking through my Eastwood catalog tonight and pondering a possible solution to the worn area where my shifter pin rides on the aluminum shifter cover on my 1939 9N. They have a kit for welding aluminum. It is special rods that you can use a plumbers torch or jewlers torch to solder onto aluminum, then you spread a thick coating of "Anti-Heat" all around the area and close to where you will be soldering to keep the existing material from melting. Says it is a strong repair that can be filed and formed.

Anyone try this stuff? Think it will hold up?

My other solution is to drill an oversized hole to get a round opening to work with, and JB Weld a metal bushing in place...

TIA,
Dan

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Sean (TX)

07-11-2007 13:08:32

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Re: Aluminum shifter cover repair in reply to ryan_n_va, 07-10-2007 19:59:29

Dan said: (quoted from post at 14:28:55 07/11/07) Ok - so it appears the aluminum welding/soldering rods are not as easy to use as they saySo, I guess I will try to locate a shop that welds aluminum (not easy in Dallas, not many prop repair places here...) and get them to weld it up and I will grind/drill new holes and slots. I still need a close up of a good shift collar though so I have a good estimate on were to drill and how far from the bottom, etc. I would greatly appreciate anyone who has a good 9N/2N shift cover just sitting around (yeah, right) if they could get me some good close up pics of this area.

Thanks all for the help and advice.

Dan

Good call on looking for a welder. I have tried those rods and had no luck. I think ford made the right choice switching to steal..

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James Rader

07-11-2007 18:15:01

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Re: Aluminum shifter cover repair in reply to Sean (TX), 07-11-2007 13:08:32

I looked at both of mine and they are both wore oblong so I did not take a picture. The one I posted yesterday was found in the photo gallery here on the ytmag site, might look around and see if there might be something there?

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Dan

07-11-2007 18:51:03

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Re: Aluminum shifter cover repair in reply to James Rader, 07-11-2007 18:15:01

Thank you sir - it is greatly appreciated that you looked for me. I may just need to "wing it"...

Dan

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James Rader

07-11-2007 19:47:26

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Re: Aluminum shifter cover repair in reply to Dan, 07-11-2007 18:51:03

Dan, If at all possible find a cast iron cover to get your measurements from, it should not be nearly as worn as the aluminum. The 39 and early 40 are the only ones that use the aluminum covers like ours, the later 40 through end of 2N should all use a cast iron cover, I have a friend who may have one but have not heard back from him yet? I'll let you know if he contacts me back.

James

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Dan

07-11-2007 11:28:55

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Re: Aluminum shifter cover repair in reply to Dan, 07-10-2007 19:59:29

Ok - so it appears the aluminum welding/soldering rods are not as easy to use as they say :-) So, I guess I will try to locate a shop that welds aluminum (not easy in Dallas, not many prop repair places here...) and get them to weld it up and I will grind/drill new holes and slots. I still need a close up of a good shift collar though so I have a good estimate on were to drill and how far from the bottom, etc. I would greatly appreciate anyone who has a good 9N/2N shift cover just sitting around (yeah, right) if they could get me some good close up pics of this area.

Thanks all for the help and advice.

Dan

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souNdguy

07-11-2007 05:14:18

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Re: Aluminum shifter cover repair in reply to Dan, 07-10-2007 19:59:29

The aluminum solder rods are pretty swift.. though not super easy to use.. I think they will give you a better repair than the jbweld / bushing method.

My next choice would be to have a profesional welder weld the hole up and then redrill it.

Soundguy

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JerryU

07-11-2007 05:02:06

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Re: Aluminum shifter cover repair in reply to Dan, 07-10-2007 19:59:29

Here's my 2 cents. Find a good shop that can heliarc it. Should cost about $10. Then you can use a die grinder to touch it up.

I have used the aluminum rod you talked about. You can pick it up just about anywhere. It actually works without a lot of difficulty. We just built up the edge of an aluminum boat prop on an old 7.5 hp motor that was all chewed up. Came out looking like new and stuck together okay.

Either way, it can be fixed. In this case, I don't think JB weld would hold up. Look up welding shops in the yellow pages, would be my first choice.

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BillM (OH)

07-10-2007 21:52:56

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Re: Aluminum shifter cover repair in reply to Dan, 07-10-2007 19:59:29

Dan: I think your best bet would be to take it to a professional welder and have him/her work on it - you can always go the JB+bushing route later if the best welders can't/don't fix it right.This is not a job to learn aluminum welding on.....

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James Rader

07-10-2007 21:16:25

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Re: Pic of the damage in reply to Dan, 07-10-2007 19:59:29

This photo shows what you need but it is a bit small. I would take it and have a good welder weld the hole completely closed then dril the hole and use a die grinder or dremel to do some good clean up and cut the slot. I have aluminum arc rods but don't trust my welding ability enough for doing my own on this type of piece.

James

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Jimmyjack

07-10-2007 20:51:05

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Re: Aluminum shifter cover repair in reply to Dan, 07-10-2007 19:59:29

Dan some kids at at a show were welding popcans with them and made it look like it was simple as pie. I bought some and still have half, spent a lot of time with them and it isnt as easy as it looks. Have to clean area with a stainless brush and get the heat perfect. Works good if you can get the hang of it.

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Dan

07-10-2007 20:08:37

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Pic of the damage in reply to Dan, 07-10-2007 19:59:29

Here is a pic of the damage in question. The round hole on the backside is just egg shaped.

Dan

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TheOldHokie

07-11-2007 05:09:48

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Re: Pic of the damage in reply to Dan, 07-10-2007 20:08:37

Dan,

Find yourself a GOOD welder. I've had far worse repaired. When I worked at the Navy research lab I knew a number of very accomplished welders and one of the guys repaired the aluminum tranny on my TR4. It had several chunks missing from the integral bell housing and he built it back up using a gas torch amd filler rod. He also located and filled a number of sand filled voids below the surface of the casting - the root cause of the other failures.

TOH

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Dan

07-10-2007 20:02:05

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Re: Aluminum shifter cover repair in reply to Dan, 07-10-2007 19:59:29

Oh - one more thing. Anyone have a close up pic of a cast iron sifter cover so I can see what the holes in the shifter collar supposed to look like without wear so I know how much to build up on mine?

Thanks,
Dan

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wayne2

07-10-2007 21:55:04

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Re: Aluminum shifter cover repair in reply to Dan, 07-10-2007 20:02:05

Grind that st. add a piece and get a longer rod. Just a thought a good fab man would be helpful. Wayne

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