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Dan

05-28-2001 20:33:49




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I just bought my neighbor's 8N and am new to the tractor scene. A friend of mine came by to check it out who also has an 8N of the same year, 1950. He saw a big lever on the side of the tractor to the right of the gear shift and above the brake pedals with the word "Up" on it. He said his tractor doesn't have that lever and couldn't find it in his manual. Could someone please tell me what it does.

The hydraulics aren't working right so I didn't know if it had something to do with them. I don't like throwing levers and pushing buttons unless I know what they do. Thanks.

Dan

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Dan

05-29-2001 08:15:26




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 Re: Lever question in reply to Dan, 05-28-2001 20:33:49  
Yep, that's what it looks like. Thanks for the info. From some of the other responses, I can't tell if it is a good thing or just one more part to worry about. I guess I'll figure this stuff out as I go.

Dan



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Ed Gooding (VA)

05-29-2001 09:07:21




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 Re: Re: Lever question in reply to Dan, 05-29-2001 08:15:26  
It's a very good thing to have and you don't have to use it right now. Later on, as you use your N more, you'll find use for it, believe me.

Don't let anyone talk you out of it. It definitely enhances your N.

Hope this helps..... ..... Ed
'52 8N475798



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Salmoneye

05-29-2001 08:22:55




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 Re: Re: Lever question in reply to Dan, 05-29-2001 08:15:26  
Well...

If that part is bothering you, you could always just pull it out and ship it to me, then you wouldn't have to worry about it any more...

;-)



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Ed Gooding (VA)

05-29-2001 04:57:24




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 Re: Lever question in reply to Dan, 05-28-2001 20:33:49  
Hi Dan:

Does it look like this?

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Hope this helps..... ..... Ed
'52 8N475798

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ED - Illinois

05-29-2001 06:09:39




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 Re: Re: Lever question in reply to Ed Gooding (VA), 05-29-2001 04:57:24  
Hey original Ed, that makes sense since he said the word up in on the lever. From the literature you posted there is the word HUPP on the ball of the lever. Wear off the letters on the outside and you are left with "UP"



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OUTim

05-29-2001 05:28:59




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 Re: Re: Lever question in reply to Ed Gooding (VA), 05-29-2001 04:57:24  
In reference to your post of the Hupp advertisement, is the shift pattern for the Sherman over/under similar ?



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Ed Gooding (VA)

05-29-2001 05:47:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Lever question in reply to OUTim, 05-29-2001 05:28:59  
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Hope this helps..... ..... Ed
'52 8N475798

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Stan in AL

05-29-2001 16:19:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Lever question in reply to Ed Gooding (VA), 05-29-2001 05:47:29  
Hello Ed,
Seems you have lots of original literature. Have anything on Ford Offset tractors that you could be persuaded to part with? I have a 2000 Offset that I would like to have original manuals on. If not, or if you have 'em but wanna keep 'em, I don't blame you. Have you been "intimate" with Ford's for a long time? You seem to have plenty of good answers for the questions I see here. I grew up in Red country , thus drove red machines first and thought that was all that could pull a plow till I discovered there actually were other colors that were also capable of digging-in-the-dirt. Have come to really appreciate what Henry and Harry did for po' folks. Thanks and have a good'un.

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Ed Gooding (VA)

05-29-2001 18:07:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lever question in reply to Stan in AL, 05-29-2001 16:19:01  
Hi Stan: Sorry, but I don't have anything on the early "thousand series." The majority of my stuff is related to the "N" models, but I have accumulated some literature about the NAA and "hundred series" and implements of that era.

Regards..... ..... Ed
'52 8N475798
'73 3000 C388812



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JerryU

05-29-2001 11:38:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Lever question in reply to Ed Gooding (VA), 05-29-2001 05:47:29  
Are you not tempting the copyright gods to come back from the grave to get you for posting their creations' likenesses??

:-)

JU



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Ed Gooding (VA)

05-29-2001 15:19:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lever question in reply to JerryU, 05-29-2001 11:38:17  
Bring it on! I'll whip up a Big Ed smorgasbord and they can have all they want.

How you doin' Jer? Haven't heard much from you. School about out up your way?

Regards..... ..... Ed
'52 8N475798



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ED-illinois

05-29-2001 04:37:37




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 Re: Lever question in reply to Dan, 05-28-2001 20:33:49  
bg is probably right, but since you are new to the tractor scene, a better explanation is in order.

Many farmers considered the gearing of the 9/2/8N to be too high. Some wanted to run full throttle but slower ground speed for plowing and such. Some wanted higher ground speed without full throttle. Companies started producing over and under transmissions that reduced and increased the gear ratio just after the clutch. Most were activated by a lever on the right or left side of the transmission housing. Some had a cable on the dashboard.

Although these devices worked well, a problem comes with the power take off. Since the PTO shaft is driven off of the transmission, it would be affected by the over or under setting as well, producing inconsistent results.

Hope this helped.

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bg

05-28-2001 20:46:47




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 Re: Lever question in reply to Dan, 05-28-2001 20:33:49  
If you're talking about a lever about 1 foot long that comes out of the side of the transmission housing, it's probably a Hupp or other auxiliary transmission shifter.



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bg is correct...

05-28-2001 20:55:44




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 Re: Re: Lever question in reply to bg, 05-28-2001 20:46:47  
...Hey Bob, do you ever sleep? :-)



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bg

05-28-2001 21:41:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Lever question in reply to bg is correct..., 05-28-2001 20:55:44  
Yeh, I sleep between 0300 and 0730 and catch a nap most afternoons. I think a siesta is a very civilized component of life. As far as being right, they say even a blind hog finds an acorn once-in-a-while.



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Old George

05-29-2001 17:00:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Lever question in reply to bg, 05-28-2001 21:41:32  
"I think a siesta is a very civilized component of life."

Heck, I thought it was more a way of survival when you work outside this time of year in the South!:-)



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Richard(WY)

05-29-2001 15:15:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Lever question in reply to bg, 05-28-2001 21:41:32  
Hey bg, I never knew that you were vision impaired. I am now fed up with those wisenheimers laughing at your 3 year project. I will email each one and tell them enough is enough. I never knew. My dad's cousin had detached retinas and we helped him on his farm all that we could. You would be surprised(as you probably know) what other talents one cultivates when one is impaired.Good luck with your project.

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bg

05-29-2001 22:39:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lever question in reply to Richard(WY), 05-29-2001 15:15:57  
I am not vision-impaired, except to the point that I am myopic and have presbyopia corrected to 20/20. I've worn glasses since 5th grade. Biggest problem I have is being sleep-deprived! As far as the boys go...let them have their fun.

My project is rounding the bend. If it doesn't rain today, I'll be blasting and painting all day. I bought a gallon of red acrylic enamel today, so I should have enough to get it done. I'm working on the hood and fenders, so maybe I'll get them painted this week, too. If I don't, so what? It's my project and I'll continue to do it as my own pace!

BTW, the blind hog is just an old folk-saying...Thanks for writing.

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