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tom in So. IL

12-09-2006 13:30:10




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I am trying to time the dist on my 9N 12V front mount. I did it according to the instructions I have but I still don't get a spark on any of the plugs. Is is necessary to be working with the #1 cylinder TDC or does it matter. I have already replaced the ballast resistor, points, condensor, rotor and plugs. Would appreciate any and all advice any of you can give me.
Tom




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Tom in So. IL

12-10-2006 08:17:15




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 Re: 9N dist. timing in reply to tom in So. IL, 12-09-2006 13:30:10  
Thanks for all the replies. Just wondering? The copper strip from the condensor to the metal and copper strips from the points was almost broken into when I opened the dist to change points etc... It completely broke during the change out. I used a piece of 12 volt wire to jump from the condensor to the points. I trimmed just enough of the insulation off the wire to make the two connections. Could this be my problem by causing a short somewhere. The original copper strip looks like it is separated from the metal where the condensor attaches, getting its power from the threaded screw hole. The strip breaking is the reason I am having to retime the dist. Like a fool, I took it apart not realizing the consequenses. Thanks again guys.
Tom

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Bob

12-10-2006 10:47:46




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 Re: 9N dist. timing in reply to Tom in So. IL, 12-10-2006 08:17:15  
Check with an Ohmmeter, with the coiled removed from the distributor....

Points "OPEN"... resistance from the interconnected parts... the brass screw down under the coil, the condensor lead, the insulated side of the breaker points, etc., to ground should be "infinite".

Points "CLOSED"... ALL the points previously mentioned get grounded through the closed breaker points, so the resistance should now be near "0"... WAY less than 1 Ohm.

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Dunk....Drunk

12-09-2006 18:26:31




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 Re: 9N dist. timing in reply to tom in So. IL, 12-09-2006 13:30:10  
UUUUU MMMMM!!!

If you are setting the time, it matters very much if the #1 piston is TDC!!!



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roger '40 9n

12-10-2006 06:41:10




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 Re: 9N dist. timing in reply to Dunk....Drunk, 12-09-2006 18:26:31  
Actually it does not matter at all where the tractor's crank is positioned when you time the front mount distributor. You set the timing with the distributor on the bench and off the tractor.
You turn the distributor drive tang and the little adjustment slide until you get the proper realtionship twixt the points opening and the drive tang.

Roger in Michigan



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Hec In Omaha

12-09-2006 18:57:16




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 Re: 9N dist. timing in reply to Dunk....Drunk, 12-09-2006 18:26:31  

The front mount rotor shaft engages the engine one way. It can't be 180 degrees out unless you really force it. The timing is set on the bench using a straight edge and a ruler.

Good luck

Hec



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G.A.TURNER

12-17-2006 20:55:54




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 Re: 9N dist. timing in reply to Hec In Omaha, 12-09-2006 18:57:16  
so i got the part about distributor to tractor ,so whats the timing process something about a straight edge i remember seeing this process some where but could'nt find it HELP



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Bob

12-17-2006 21:06:02




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 Re: 9N dist. timing in reply to G.A.TURNER, 12-17-2006 20:55:54  
An explanation is at the link below:



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G.A.Turner

12-18-2006 16:47:34




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 Re: 9N dist. timing in reply to Bob, 12-17-2006 21:06:02  
Thanks for the info i hope that i can get it started had to replaced the points distributor cap rotor button plugs .let you know if i get it started Tuesday



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Hec In Omaha

12-09-2006 18:11:25




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 Re: 9N dist. timing in reply to tom in So. IL, 12-09-2006 13:30:10  
Make sure that the screw that makes contact with the spring on the coil is not going to ground. To test this, remove the distributor. Then use a multimeter that can test continuity. Place one lead on the mentioned screw and the other on the body of the distributor. You should not have any continuity. If you do then the screw is going to ground. In that case check that little plastic insulator it may be broken.


Hec

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Tom N MS

12-09-2006 15:05:01




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 Re: 9N dist. timing in reply to tom in So. IL, 12-09-2006 13:30:10  
Rasiest way to check and see if you are losing contact on the coil springy thing or the otheer contact is:::::Remove the gasket under the coil. Put a little scrap of cardboard, folded business card etc under the coil bail to hole the coil snug...Try it..If it cranks and runs you know that your problem is with the springy thing or the other contact....addjust them so you get good contact, reinstall the cork gasket and go plow....
or play or whatever you do with your N.

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Indiana Jones

12-09-2006 14:40:45




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 Re: 9N dist. timing in reply to tom in So. IL, 12-09-2006 13:30:10  
Instead of trying to stretch the pigtail, I shimmed up the screw in the distributor that the pigtail is supposed to contact with a few small washers underneath it. Problem solved. I wasn't getting any contact after I tuned my 9N up. Just another way of ensuring good contact if that is the problem with yours. Good luck.



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Ross Pugh(NC)

12-09-2006 13:53:02




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 Re: 9N dist. timing in reply to tom in So. IL, 12-09-2006 13:30:10  
Sounds like there is a good possibility that the pigtail spring on the bottom of the coil is not contacting the screw. Ye may need to carefully stretch the spring a little to be sure it is making contact. Ye can hook up the distributor to ye battery while it is off the tractor and turn the distributor and check with a test light to see if ye are getting fire coming out of the distributor.



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Chas Schondorf

12-09-2006 13:42:00




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 Re: 9N dist. timing in reply to tom in So. IL, 12-09-2006 13:30:10  
Sounds like the Coil to me. Check the spring wire connection on the Coil.



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Bob

12-09-2006 13:37:41




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 Re: 9N dist. timing in reply to tom in So. IL, 12-09-2006 13:30:10  
If you are not getting spark to ANY of the plugs, you have a problem other than timing.



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