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2N lower lift arm pin

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Jeff Sageman

05-22-2001 12:07:00

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Hello to all the good folks who love tractors!
I am gearing up to replace the lower lift arm pin & gasket (drivers side) in my 1945 2N. Got a pretty fair leak, almost a cup of 134d fluid per week. Funny thing is for the past few months of leaking, the dip stick always shows full, and when I add some hydraulic fluid the dip stick shows above full. Any ideas? Is there something I'm not seeing or hearing? The dip stick is the correct one and aside from some knocking noise coming from the pump when its under a load the arms operate as well as an "old man" can. IT manual says a knocking sound means low fluid. An old timer told me a knocking sound means its an old machine. Guess I'll discover the answer when I get into it. Anyone ever encounter this problem. Thank you

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Dell (WA)

05-22-2001 16:02:56

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Re: 2N lower lift arm pin in reply to Jeff Sageman, 05-22-2001 12:07:00

Jeff..... ..why are you surprized that the tranny dipstick level changes when you add tranny fluid? Seems to me, thats exactly what it should do.

Remember, 1 fill 'em up by the tranny shifter of 5 gals of Ford/New Holland recommended M2C-134D also provides all the tranny oil for the hydraulic pump and the differential too. (its a 3 for 1 scheme) ..... ...Dell

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jeff

05-23-2001 12:21:48

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Re: Re: 2N lower lift arm pin in reply to Dell (WA), 05-22-2001 16:02:56

Dell, thanks for the response. I know that the system is three for one scheme, but why would the dipstick read full when I'm losing fluid every day? Whats your take on knocking sound from the pump area when under a load?

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Dell (WA)

05-23-2001 14:28:17

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Re: Re: Re: 2N lower lift arm pin in reply to jeff, 05-23-2001 12:21:48

Jeff..... ...maybe I miss-read, but I thought you said that when you add tranny oil, the dipstick would read higher afterwards than before you added oil. Which is what I would assume a dipstick should do. Put more in, read more.

You realize that you can probably put over 8 gals of oil in the tranny. And if'n you do, it will probablly overflow out the warn front tranny oil seal down into the clutch housing drain with the jangling cotter key. And definately overflow thru the axle trumpets oilseals and get your brakes all oily.

In 1972, when I got my first N-Tractor, my next door retired tractor mechanic warned me against putting too much oil into the tranny. His claim was that 5 gals was too much and would overflow the axle seals. He claimed 4 1/2 gals was plenty. All that extra oil did was to act like a bigger "heat-sink" or radiator. Which is why mowing or plowing on a hot summer day will give you roasty toastys..... ..Dell

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