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Bob Guse

09-18-2006 14:11:58




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I have worked up an area with my 8N and want to spread acorns in hopes of starting some oak trees. Does anyone know if I should remove the caps from the acorns first or does it matter?
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Grove

09-19-2006 20:55:18




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 Re: 8N Related, Barely! in reply to Bob Guse, 09-18-2006 14:11:58  
I"ve been told that you put them in water and if they float throw them out and if they sink plant them. Don"t know if it is true or not.



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JDrew

09-19-2006 14:28:58




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 Re: 8N Related, Barely! in reply to Bob Guse, 09-18-2006 14:11:58  
I tried this with Walnuts a few years ago. It was actually an experiment to help answer my then 8-year-old's question about how many nuts grow into trees (germination rate).

We planted 200+ walnuts on a 1' x 1' grid in nice, well-composted ground and kept it weed free for two years and only got four saplings. Now the walnuts that the squirrels buried or fell in our veggie garden sprouted up a dozen saplings... Go figure.

I've been fortunate on our prairie-restoration project to have a few old oaks right near the field edge. The squirrels and chippies bury enough acorns to have dozens of seedlings sprouting every spring and we just transplant the ones we want at about 5' tall as soon as the ground thaws.

If it were me, I'd hand scatter as many FRESH acorns as I could find and turn them under with a light application of the disc. (shoot for 1"-3" based on how well a squirrel can dig.) Your germination rate will be pretty poor, but with enough 'corns, you'll still get a bunch of seedlings.

my $.02

J-

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8N'r

09-19-2006 08:31:39




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 Re: 8N Related, Barely! in reply to Bob Guse, 09-18-2006 14:11:58  
Bob--dont know what part of the country you are in but in WI the direct seeding method is just starting to catch on with some of the foresters. There was a good study on hardwood reforestation in S.W. WI using direct seeding that was published in 2004. You can google it or send an email to me and I will forward the file to you. Site prep is probably the most important part of your planting and annual mowing/herbicide treatment for a few years is beneficial---mice can do a lot of damage to the seedlings once they are up---I have been trying to regenerate some areas using 2-3 year seedlings that I planted in 2004---it is a battle to get the trees above grass/weed height, but I am showing some progress. The seedlings will cost you about $0.25 to $0.30 apiece and will give you a headstart of a few years compared to acorns. Good luck with your planting---Tim (WI)

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Colin King

09-19-2006 07:52:26




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 Re: 8N Related, Barely! in reply to Bob Guse, 09-18-2006 14:11:58  
Bob,

I think Bruce is right to suggest storing them in a cold & damp place (a bucket filled with moist sawdust works great!) over winter and then putting them in pots for a summer. The pots need to be large enough for the tap root to develop. I've used 1/2 gallon plastic nursery pots. Plant them the following spring. You won't have much germination if you direct seed them.

The caps can stay on.

Colin, MN

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wfw

09-19-2006 07:20:58




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 Re: 8N Related, Barely! in reply to Bob Guse, 09-18-2006 14:11:58  
deer love acorns also, they may get your acorns if you have deer

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old

09-18-2006 15:23:49




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 Re: 8N Related, Barely! in reply to Bob Guse, 09-18-2006 14:11:58  
How many small oak trees you want?? You can come to my place and dig up a few 100 of them for free. But also like the others have said it works best if they freeze first before planting then.



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Bruce (VA)

09-18-2006 14:16:48




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 Re: 8N Related, Barely! in reply to Bob Guse, 09-18-2006 14:11:58  
No, but you're going to have a lot better luck if you put them in the freezer over winter then put them in paper cups next spring. At least that is what my cousin tells me because her husband has the freezer full of acorns!



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Dachshund

09-18-2006 14:15:07




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 Re: 8N Related, Barely! in reply to Bob Guse, 09-18-2006 14:11:58  
You don't have to remove the caps, but if you have ANY squirrels, they will foil your plans rather quickly. It would be better if you took the acorns inside and planted them. Take care of the seedlings for a couple years, then plant them. If I recall correctly, you will have to put the acorns into your fridge or freezer for awhile first.



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