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Jamey

04-27-2001 07:48:45




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My grandpa and I have gotten ahold of a 1947 2N Series Tractor. But, it is just not turning over. It tries and tries, but will never kick over. When I pull a wire off a spark plug and ground to the block, I get no spark, any ideas? Thanks.




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Dave 2N

04-27-2001 10:54:36




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 Re: 2N Info Wanted in reply to Jamey, 04-27-2001 07:48:45  
Jamey-
Pay attention to what all of these guys are telling you and you'll find the answer in there somewhere. Now I'll add my $.02.
My 46 2N is a great starter; it starts every time as long as:
1-The battery, coil, points, condenser, ignition switch and every other component of the electrical system is in good condition, tuned, up to spec, etc.
2-The battery terminals are clean and on mine, as long as the ground cable and its point of contact on the tractor are clean.

As long as all of this stuff is OK, it starts like a champ, even in cold weather. However, about once a year it starts to get "cranky" and I've learned that it's time to check to make sure things are clean, tight, adjusted, etc. Well that once a year time rolled around last week so I took an hour to check things. Everything I did helped but the biggest difference was making sure that the ground cable had a good contact.
My 2N seems to be a little more sensitive to having all of the electrical stuff "just right" than do my other tractors; at least I've found that I have to pay more attention to the 2N's electrical system than I do those on my other non-Ford tractors and they all get used about the same amount. I think that with N's, if the total electrical system is kept "up to snuff," they are good starters and a lot of the people who want to go to a 12 volt system would be better served to just do some maintenance on the 6 volt system on the tractor.
Good luck.

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Danny in CO

04-27-2001 10:05:36




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 Re: 2N Info Wanted in reply to Jamey, 04-27-2001 07:48:45  
Here is a post from ZANE from a few days back. It describes a great way to isolate an elictrical with a front mount distributor.

"Here is a way to check out a front mount coil and points etc. Not systematic or scientific but as the best mechanic I ever knew said, "The ignorant way"

His name was Buch Nelson by the way and he worked all his adult life as a mechanic for the Talladega County Road Department. Retired and died a year later from cancer. (Too many days in the smoke and chemicals)If you have a can of starting fluid spray some into the air cleaner. If it starts you have problems with the fuel system. Probably some foreign matter in the bottom of the carb such as dirt or water.

If it won't fire with starting fluid it is in the ignition and could be the points condenser etc.

Remove wire to the coil from the resistor and check to see if you get a spark from the wire when you strike it to the frame of the tractor. If you do then remove the distributor cap and coil and take the distributor off the tractor by removing the two retaining bolts. When you put it back on be sure the offset on the shaft is in line with the offset on the cam gear.

With the distributor off the tractor reconnect the coil wire and put the coil back on top of the distributor with the cap and wires off. Connect the base of the distributor to the tractor frame with one jumper cable. Using a cloths pin connect a wire from the base of the dist. to about 1/8" from the terminal that connects the distributor cap to the distributor. Turn the dist shaft and there should be a blue spark between the gap of the small jumper wire between the terminal and the base. If no spark you should turn the distributor till the points are open and then using an insulated handle screwdriver make contact between the two open point contacts. If it now fires you have a bad set of points and they are not making contact when they come together. They should be replaced. If you have no spark anywhere then you should try grounding the incoming spring connector from the coil at the bottom of the coil to the base of the distributor with the points removed from the distributor and also the condenser. If there is still not any spark from the coil you should replace the coil."

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Bert

04-27-2001 08:30:05




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 Re: 2N Info Wanted in reply to Jamey, 04-27-2001 07:48:45  

Probably something simple.

If its been sitting for a while check all electrical connections.(Clean, tight,bright) Are you getting correct voltage to the coil ?

Are the plugs and wires in good shape ?

And my favorite, Will it start on starter fluid sprayed into the carbs air intake ?

BTW, my tractor is 9N300618, a '47 also. What is your serial (left of block)
and date code (starter mount)

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Jim.UT

04-27-2001 08:16:41




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 Re: 2N Info Wanted in reply to Jamey, 04-27-2001 07:48:45  
I'm no electrical expert, but if you go to the archives and type in "no spark" or "won't start" you'll get enough reading material to last for days.



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