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Jubilee remote hydraulics - Will this work?

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Paul Schultz

06-13-2005 19:17:15

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I have a FEL (one way cylinders, trip bucket) and would like to use it for occasional light duty. I don't want to invest in a separate pump, reservoir, etc. So, I want to use the tractor's hydraulics. But, finding the rare Selec-trol valve is very difficult.

So here is my idea (please comment!):

I want to tap into the tractor's pressure line coming from the hydraulic pump and have it go first to a 3-way directional control valve with a power beyond port. The power beyond port would reconnect to the original tractor's hydraulic pressure line. This should allow me to use the internal hydraulics for operating the FEL cylinders and also still allow hydraulic pressure to flow to the internal hydraulics to operate the lift arms. I'm fairly sure this set-up won't allow operation of the FEL and lift arms simultaneously but I don't see this being a problem.

In this set-up the directional control valve will need its working outlet to return to the reservoir. I'll need to figure out how/where to tap this into the reservoir...any help in this area would be appreciated!

So, is this a crazy idea? Or, is it do-able?

And once again I am aware of the usual warnings that 'I won't be satisfied with the hydraulic performance'... But, with my likely infrequent use of the FEL I can't justify the expense of a separate remote hydraulic system.


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06-14-2005 12:55:36

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 Re: Jubilee remote hydraulics - Will this work? in reply to Paul Schultz, 06-13-2005 19:17:15  
Hey Paul if'n you send me your e-mail address I can get you some pictures and give you some good input on this subject. A lot of my info was gleaned from Zane and John(CO) on this matter. If you want to know exactly how to do it I have a ton of info and mine is working like a charm. That Quick connect on your adapter plate is on the return side of your plate. My guess is someone was chaining down the lift arms, hooking to the test port and using the position control lever to work a cylinder. This is kinda tough on the relief valve.
"MY" setup works like a champ. Get me your e-mail and I can get you some good info and pics along with some "been there done that".
I do have to give Zane a lot credit here.

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06-14-2005 05:06:18

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 Re: Jubilee remote hydraulics - Will this work? in reply to Paul Schultz, 06-13-2005 19:17:15  
No the lift can not be operated as you describe the way you plan to do it.

If you don't have some way to keep the pressurized oil from going to dump it won't work. Just to tap into the pressure line will not block the route of the oil to dump without making other arrangement.

It can be done by removing the adapter plate that is on top of the lift housing. With the adapter plate off the lift housing start the engine and see which port oil comes out of. Tap and plug this port with a hex head pipe tap of the size that you can get to fit the port hole in the lift housing. May even have to drill it to a size that you can tap to a pipe plug size.

Drill a hole directly over the position that the pressure hole you just plugged into the adapter plate that came off the lift housing. and install a pipe street ell into the pipe tapped hole you drilled and tapped to a pipe thread.

Run a hydraulic line from the test port ont he side of the lift housing to the open center control valve you have mounted to operate the loader and another hose from the control valve to the street ell on top of the lift adapter plate.

That is the way I have my 660 and have been told by others that it works on the NAA just the same. I have not done it myself but some on this forum have after I told them how I did my 660.

I would like to take full credit for this ingenious idea but it is not mine. I got the instructions from a member of the Ford Forum.


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06-13-2005 20:51:08

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 Re: Jubilee remote hydraulics - Will this work? in reply to Paul Schultz, 06-13-2005 19:17:15  
I think you've got it. I did the same thing temporarily w/ my MF165 until I found a reasonable front pump. The 165 has live hydraulics(like your Jub)& I used a 2-spool valve w/ power beyond.

My FEL was slow on the lift pump, but it sure was nice to have it.


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Paul Schultz

06-14-2005 11:01:48

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 Re: Jubilee remote hydraulics - Will this work? in reply to lonestarjeff, 06-13-2005 20:51:08  
Zane thanks, I am aware of the method to modify your adapter plate and I may end up doing this mod. But, my adapter plate already has a port on it and I can't figure out how to use it. I'm not sure if the port (with a quick fit hydraulic adapter on it) is for a high pressure line or a return line! I see where the test port on the side is as well. BTW, this quick fit connector on the adapter plate will spray hydraulic oil if I press down on the inside (i.e., seems to have pressure behind it!) I'm wondering if I can just connect my two one way cylinders to this and use the tractor's hydraulic lift lever to raise and lower the FEL? Below is a URL to some pics of my strange adapter plate.

And here is a URL to a control valve schematic that I was thinking would work directly off the pressure line from the pump (with a power beyond port, the Tandem 3 way valve).


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