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8N brakes and jacking it up

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Duke

03-19-2001 06:51:20




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Newbie questions alert: I turned the adjustment screw inside the brake housing and tightened to the point where the wheels didn't turn and then backed off until there was a little drag they would be ok...but the brakes still dont work. What else can i do? Someone said the axle seals may be leaking or the shims may be cracked? Does this sound right? I assume I have to remove the wheels in both one of these? How difficult is this? I don't look forward to manhandling the heavy wheels!

Another question...when i jacked the back end up, i could not for the life of me get both wheels off the ground at one time. The right rear wheel would go up but the tractor would lean on the left wheel and would not jack up. It just kept sagging on the left and rising on the right. I finally had to just do one wheel at a time.... is there a structural problem that makes it twist like this? I did this on a level garage floor btw.

Thanks for the help and this forum!
Duke
8N 201097

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Gaspump

03-19-2001 08:39:02




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 Re: 8N brakes and jacking it up in reply to Duke, 03-19-2001 06:51:20  
The obvious answer to the the jacking question is that one side of your tractor is heavier than the other, maybe that one tire is loaded and the other is not. At any rate it is not safe to jack it from the center to lift both sides at once as it is subject to tipping over. Jack one side at a time and use jack stands. As far as the brakes go they may be dirty or oily but you must pull the drum to find out and fix them.

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Duke

03-19-2001 08:48:58




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 Re: Re: 8N brakes and jacking it up in reply to Gaspump, 03-19-2001 08:39:02  
Is there any way to tell if the tires are loaded or not with a calcium chloride or other solution?



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John in Abq

03-19-2001 09:41:59




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 Re: Re: Re: 8N brakes and jacking it up in reply to Duke, 03-19-2001 08:48:58  
Rotate the wheel until the valve stem is somewhere near the bottom and push in on the valve core. If liquid comes out, it's loaded. Be sure to wipe up any liquid and then hose down good. If it's Calcium chloride, it will be very corrosive to any steel.

John



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Duane

03-19-2001 07:13:07




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 Re: 8N brakes and jacking it up in reply to Duke, 03-19-2001 06:51:20  
Hi duke! It sounds like the front axle is pivoting like its suposed to. I use jack stands. Hope that helps,Duane



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bj/8N/mt

03-19-2001 07:10:07




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 Re: 8N brakes and jacking it up in reply to Duke, 03-19-2001 06:51:20  
can't scare me with a newbie alert--seriously answering questions is a lot more fun than trying to figure out how it went wrong. welcome

over fifty years brake shoes collect a lot of dust and crud even if the rear seals are fine

hate to say it but you are going to need to pull the rear wheels and if they have liquid in them you ought to drain them first--lots of posts on that drill or ask again. even if they are dry they it would be a help to have either a strong pal or an engine hoist. I have been lucky and cleaned up the shoes with brake cleaner but it took several applications over several days.

never had a problem lifting both rears with a floor jack under the center section. without more info I can't nail that second question

again, just have to remember that you are smarter than the tractor

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Doug

03-21-2001 06:57:31




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 Re: Re: 8N brakes and jacking it up in reply to bj/8N/mt, 03-19-2001 07:10:07  
Had the same problem with raising my 2N. Come to find out, the left wheel had liquid in it and the right did not. Hope this helps.



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