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Stabilizer bars for snowblade

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Tom Schulein

12-07-2004 12:59:44




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I have mounted a KingKutter blade on the rear of my 8N to plow snow. Of course, it attaches to the right- and left-hand lower lift arms and the upper draft control mounting. (I think I have the correct names for these.) However, I do NOT have the, for lack of a better term, the two "stabilizer bars" that, if I am not mistaken, will help me stabilize the plow against left and right movement? What are these additional bars called specifically? And, do I not desire to have them to prevent sway? Thanks.

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Oregon Del

12-11-2004 10:42:49




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 Re: Stabilizer bars for snowblade in reply to Tom Schulein, 12-07-2004 12:59:44  
This is a message for Tom Schulein.

Tom: I recently purchased the same KingKutter blade you described in your 12/7/2004 posting. The 8N that I recently purchased (my first) has most of the hydraulic lift parts missing, with the exception of the lower lifts, upper lift control and the leveling box asbly.

By reading the archives I think that I have determined what additional parts I need to purchase (despite the difference in discriptive terminology between my parts manual and that used on this site),with one exception. That is, the connecting device between the hydraulic lift yoke and the upper 3pt attachment on the blade. I haven't discovered any photos of 3 pt implement attachments on this site.

What I was wondering, is if you have a digital photo of your blade installation that you could post or send to my e-mail address.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Thomas M. Schulein

12-11-2004 19:07:12




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 Re: Stabilizer bars for snowblade in reply to Oregon Del, 12-11-2004 10:42:49  
Oregon Dell:

I couldn't find your e-mail address, as it must be hidden, like I guess mine is. Please send me your e-mail address so I can respond to your questions. Yes I have some pictures (digital) and can take some more.
Tom (thomas-schulein@uiowa.edu).



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Crockett

12-08-2004 19:40:20




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 Re: Stabilizer bars for snowblade in reply to Tom Schulein, 12-07-2004 12:59:44  
Tom:
A bit of confusion regarding answers to your post. Strap stays and stabilizer bars are two different things. Stay straps are used with a draw bar to maintain a pre set height (no three point lift action), or has been said your stay straps will bend (I have done it). With your back blade you need to use stabilizer bars which as noted mount under your axles and attach to the lower links of the blade. If you try to move snow without the stablizer bars your blade will slip and slide side to side as previously noted and not be very effiecient. I know this because I have been there. If you have the brackets under the axles you can have someone in a steel shop make up the bars. If not, you can buy stabilzer bar sets that will fit on the N series. You will need them to plow any kind of heavy snow. Tire chains are a must if you get any amount of snow. I hope this helps.

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SteveB(wi)

12-07-2004 13:33:38




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 Re: Stabilizer bars for snowblade in reply to Tom Schulein, 12-07-2004 12:59:44  
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Most often called stabilizer bars and brackets. Available at most any tractor/farm retailer and on the net. They come in stronger and not so stronger variations depending on manuf and/or country of origin. Original brackets under fenders are castings, aftermarket are angle iron. I made mine from 3/8" X 2" bar stock and already had original brackets installed. The most important thing is that the pin on the bracket MUST line up with the lower link pivot points or things will bend.

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Jim.UT

12-07-2004 13:21:28




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 Re: Stabilizer bars for snowblade in reply to Tom Schulein, 12-07-2004 12:59:44  
I understand what you're talking about. I've heard them called stabilizer bars or sway bars. I have them on my 850 and they work great. The bars are nothing more than 1/4" or 3/8" thick (I'm not sure which) flat steel, about 1.5" wide and about as long as your lift arms.

In addition to the bars themselves, you need the mounting bracket to attach them to. The aftermarket brackets are just a short piece of angle iron the bolts under the axles using the same bolts that hold your fenders on. On the vertical surface of the angle iron there are usually 4 holes. A mounting pin is installed in the hole that will position it exactly across from the lift arm mounting pin. It's important that the sway bar pin be on the same level as the lift arm pin so that the sway bar and lift arm pivot from the same point in space. Otherwise things bind up and things get bent.

I believe sway bar kits are available from most tractor supply stores. Some people say you really only need one sway bar (either left or right side) to do the job, but I like using both bars.

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Bruce (VA)

12-07-2004 13:09:15




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 Re: Stabilizer bars for snowblade in reply to Tom Schulein, 12-07-2004 12:59:44  
I've always called them sway bars..... I've seen kits that include the bars as well as the attachment that bolts under each axel trumpet. I've been lucky that all three of my N's came w/ the attachments, so all I needed was the bars. W/o the bars, that blade will move nearly a foot in each direction.



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used car salesman

12-07-2004 14:28:50




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 Stay Straps in reply to Bruce (VA), 12-07-2004 13:09:15  
What do staystraps do? I have a brand new pair that came with the tractor and dont really know what the use is for them. they can be found on page 208 of the 2004 TSC blue book.

I have the same backblade..... what do these things do?
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thanks !!!



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Steve(OR)

12-07-2004 15:22:47




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 Re: Stay Straps in reply to used car salesman, 12-07-2004 14:28:50  
They connect to form a triangle from the ends of the lift arms to the top link rocker. The bottom the triangle is the 11 hole drawbar. The function is to keep the drawbar at a fixed height when used to tow implements and trailers. You really need to used both stay straps and stabilizer bars at the same time when towing stuff. And don't use the lift hydraulics with stay straps cause you'll break something.

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SteveB(wi)

12-07-2004 15:47:38




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 Re: Stay Straps in reply to Steve(OR), 12-07-2004 15:22:47  
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You don"t need stabilizer bars with the stay bars. The triangle will keep it from swaying. In fact my factory 11 hole drawbar doesn"t have long enough pins to allow you to use them. The original stay bars had a chain, warning tag, and bracket that slips over the control lever so you cannot use the hydraulics and bend things.

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