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Mark

02-16-2001 13:02:39




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How rare are these tractors that have a low range and a high range giving you a total of 8 foward and two reverse?
It is an 8n -I'm not sure which year yet.I picked up some info here to tell.
I also have a problem with the pto.
It kickes out when I brush mow.
Under little or no load it stays in just fine, but when it starts to have a medium to heavy load it jumps out.
It belongs to my great-grandfathers estate.It is controlled by his daughter.I am thinking of buying it. What is a going rate?
It is in good condition.Good paint.2 bottom plow,6 ft blade,6 ft brush mower,hoist boom,home made lift,tow bar (for towing tractor behind truck or car),ratcheting pto, a trailer hitch ball mount for the 3 pnt hitch, it has three lights and one flashing yellow ,and the tach doesn't work .
Number two plug, oil fouls so
I put in a set of Platinum Autolites which took care of it - for now.
Needs brakes and the bendix kicks out premuturly sometimes while cranking the engine(6v). Any and all info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

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Claus

02-17-2001 07:30:03




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 Re: 8 speed transmission in reply to Mark, 02-16-2001 13:02:39  
Nolan has some good advice. My only comment would be,in the tractor worth area. You did not state the year of the tractor. But according to information I have, this tractor would be worth about $3,000 in good shape without the implements. Now one would subtract the repairs needed to bring this tractor up to good shape. I do not like the part of the oil fouling. This most likely spells engine rebuild. I would subtract about $1500.00 for this plus the other incidentals that Nolan mentioned. Now we are looking at about $1,000 for the tractor.
My .02 worth.
Happy Motoring
Claus

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Nolan

02-16-2001 19:29:35




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 Re: 8 speed transmission in reply to Mark, 02-16-2001 13:02:39  
Auxiliary transmissions aren't all that rare, but some types are. A true 2 speed auxiliary is in direct drive in one position, so it's either direct - high, or direct - low. If the lever is on the left side when you're seated on the tractor, and is shaped sorta like the mark of Zoro, you might have a true high - direct - low, with 12 forward and 3 reverse speeds. Shift pattern for those is low forward, high back. In the middle is neutral. Yank the lever sideways out of the tractor about 3/4" and pull it back again for direct. If you want to visualize it like a cars transmission; 3=low, 4=high, 2=direct.

The pto jumping out is a pretty good indicator of either a twisted shaft or a worn dog clutch. It's not expensive to repair. I think the entire shaft assembly costs about $125, with the dog clutch being about $30. Cheap to fix and not hard to do.

The starter kicking out prematurely is an inherent design characteristic of this type of starter. There's nothing wrong with it. It is annoying, but they truly are designed that way. On the plus side, you'll never have one of these starters stick engaged and either explode when the engine revs (exciting), or grind through the ring gear.

What are they worth? A couple of thousand dollars. $2-5k pretty much covers the range. Some geographic areas run them higher then others.
Very roughly from your description, this one is probably in the $2500 to $4000 range. That's tractor alone, not the impliments.

If the tractor strikes your fancy, or has sentimental value, go ahead and get it. These machines are collector items, so re-selling it isn't a problem. If you're looking at it as a work tractor, give it some much harder thought.

The "ratcheting pto" is simply an over runing clutch. It's one of the reasons to give it some hard thought if you're thinking about working this tractor. The pto spins from the transmission, which gives a relationship to the drive wheels. Without a "ratcheting pto", something like a brush hog can run you right off an embankment.

Replacement tach is only $60. Brakes are easily fixed, usually with nothing more then a cleaning and adjustment. Oil burning can be an expensive fix, but these machines run along for decades burning a bit of oil.

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excellent advice.......Dell (WA)

02-16-2001 21:07:47




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 Re: Re: 8 speed transmission in reply to Nolan, 02-16-2001 19:29:35  
Nolan really nailed it.

Package price everything probably about $4000.

Sometimes, being too close to the estate can cloud everyones objectivity.

This comment seems appropriate. I've saved a lot of money at auctions by being 2nd highest bidder.

Meaning, If'n ya wants it, make fair offer, they can always turn ya down. But if'n ya justs gotts to haffit, be prepaired and willing to accept the consequences.

Good Luck..... ..Dell

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