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8N and Tilling ???

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Tom Ballard

02-10-2001 17:26:50




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Greetings,

I've been told that first gear on the 8N is too high for pulling a tiller. I have a training track for horses and need to till it every so often once rain has turned the clay to hardpack. ? Will the 8N pull a 48"-60" tiller and will the PTO handle it? I've got a strong running 8N, but don't know if it will handle tilling a track that's about 1300 feet long and 30 feet wide. The fellow at TSC said it would, but some of the more experienced older farmers around say it won't. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Tom Ballard

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John

02-11-2001 14:32:24




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 Re: 8N and Tilling ??? in reply to Tom Ballard, 02-10-2001 17:26:50  
I have a 41 9N Ford and a 45 SC Case. If I ever run across a 3-point tiller cheap, this is how I will run it. I will put the tiller on my Ford, leave it in neutral but engage the PTO, and have my buddy stear it. I will pull the 9N tractor/tiller with my Case. The Case has a wet clutch, so I can make it crawl. Just a thought.

John



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bg

02-11-2001 14:07:43




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 Re: 8N and Tilling ??? in reply to Tom Ballard, 02-10-2001 17:26:50  
There was a tiller made that had its own motor. I don't know if they're still mfg but it may be cheaper than buying a Kubota.



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Tom Ballard

02-11-2001 14:14:01




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 Re: Re: 8N and Tilling ??? in reply to bg, 02-11-2001 14:07:43  
I wish I could find a self powered tiller. I'm looking at a MF 231S. They have a fairly good deal going, $12,250 if you buy before June 30. The new 231's are 42 horse as opposed to the earlier ones that were only 34. I'd still rather use my 8N that I've already paid for, but maybe I'm expecting too much from it.

Thank you.

Tom Ballard



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Tom Ballard

02-11-2001 09:36:58




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 Re: 8N and Tilling ??? in reply to Tom Ballard, 02-10-2001 17:26:50  
I was going to go ahead and spend the $1000 at TSC and give it a try (they guaranteed they'd take it back) but now I think I'll pass. It seems the consensus is unanimous that an 8N is not a tilling machine. I can't use one of the pasture drags because I need to keep a 4"-6" cushion for the horses to train on.

Thank to all for your sound advice.

Tom Ballard



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Dell (WA)

02-11-2001 00:32:23




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 Re: 8N and Tilling ??? in reply to Tom Ballard, 02-10-2001 17:26:50  
Tom..... ..to successfully use any rototiller, you need to travel slowly, (walking speed) and run the PTO at high RPM's. All N-Tractors are too high speed geared to do this. Occassionally, you'll find a "Howard" aux-tranny that mounts after the main tranny and before the differential gear. Howsomever, most Howard trannys have puked their gears and there are no parts to fix 'em that I know about. The more common "Sherman" aux-tranny mounts before the main tranny and slows down the PTO shaft so the rototiller doesn't till worth a d@mn.

Most horsey track maintenance that I know about use a "chain link" drag matt. I use a 6'W X 8'L chain harrow that I bought at auction for $200 to drag my pasture behind my 8N. Brand new about $500.

Bottom line, N-Tractors are lousy rototiller machines but are 2-bottom plowing fools. ..... ..Dell

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Fast Ed Ohio

02-10-2001 21:18:53




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 Re: 8N and Tilling ??? in reply to Tom Ballard, 02-10-2001 17:26:50  
Tom , It depends on what your caiiing a tiller, aroun here a tiller is used to till up a plot for a garden ect. 4 to 6 inches deep or more, old ns are not geared low enough to do this well. If you are talking about some sort of a drag that will shratch and smothe the surface an old n should be great. good luck.



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JimNC

02-10-2001 17:37:56




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 Re: 8N and Tilling ??? in reply to Tom Ballard, 02-10-2001 17:26:50  
I've read a bunch of posts on this board about that and most say it is not good for the tractor. Not enough horses (no pun intended).



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