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Fast Ed Ohio

02-08-2001 21:40:08

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I thought the electrical systems on these old tractors was pretty simple , why get into all this 4 year master degree electronics, it wont help me or any one I know get the old n running, and this is what its all about aint it ?

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Phil (AZ)

02-10-2001 05:49:41

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Re: 8 N S in reply to Fast Ed Ohio, 02-08-2001 21:40:08

�The simplest solution to a problem is always the best solution, but the solution should only be as simple as it needs to be� (Albert Einstein) Everyone understands the first statement (KISS) but the second varies with one�s point of view.

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Al English

02-09-2001 06:51:13

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Re: 8 N S in reply to Fast Ed Ohio, 02-08-2001 21:40:08

Hi Ed, When my daughter was young she would ask me to help with her homework. I never gave her an answer. Instead I gave her other examples and asked questions that would get her thinking in the right direction. That often frustrated her, as all she really wanted was the answer to that particular problem. She went on to college and homework that was way beyond me. Now she is a vet that knows how to think on her own, and isn't afraid to tackle a problem.

I am one of those who is quilty of giving long descriptave answers in this forum. But I believe that an understanding of the reasons for doing something is at least as important as what is being done. Many crafts and trades no longer require one to learn the underlying principals and theorys. If you think not, when is the last time a mechanic didn't fix your car correctly....Al English

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02-09-2001 07:30:46

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Re: Re: 8 N S in reply to Al English, 02-09-2001 06:51:13

I agree 100% Al.

By trade I am a civil engineer and my life is filled with theory and practice. The key is to have the patience to not get frustrated when confronted with a new idea. It may take several tries before it becomes clear enough to understand but the benefit is worth the wait.

I encourage all N contributors to get as long winded as possible. Those who don't want to read don't have to (this is America after all). I have learned a great deal from messages posted here and find that I learn much more from those who write much more.

However, if I send an e-mail to a client and it is longer than 20 words, I seldom get a response.

Go Figure - Good Talking To You.

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02-09-2001 06:26:56

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Re: 8 N S in reply to Fast Ed Ohio, 02-08-2001 21:40:08

Sure, these N-series Tractor electrical systems are simple; electricity isn't. I am just happy that there are guys out there who understand it and are willing to share. Yes, I am no Nicholi Tesla either, but the electrical system on my 2N is simple enough for me to understand, and not knowing me I can assure you, that is simple. (must be friends with FD)

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Claus

02-09-2001 05:34:11

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Re: 8 N S in reply to Fast Ed Ohio, 02-08-2001 21:40:08

Should everything be presented to the lowest common denominator? That is what they do on TV. Studies have been made that the average TV progrma is for a mentality of 9 year old. That is why I watch the Discovery channel and such... Others watch wrestling and "As your stomach turns"
Glean what you can from posts and leave the others .
Happy Motoring
Claus

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Jim WI - Well Said, Claus!

02-09-2001 10:35:33

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Al Amstutz

02-09-2001 05:02:30

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Re: 8 N S in reply to Fast Ed Ohio, 02-08-2001 21:40:08

Excellent answer Paul, and my sentiments exactly.
get as technical as you like, I can take what I understand and leave the rest, but put it all in there.

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It is your choice to read it or not.

02-09-2001 04:36:00

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Re: 8 N S in reply to Fast Ed Ohio, 02-08-2001 21:40:08

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Paul Haas - Pine Island MN

02-09-2001 03:55:43

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Re: 8 N S in reply to Fast Ed Ohio, 02-08-2001 21:40:08

There are two primary reasons for going into all the electrical stuff. 1) People have changed their electrical systems from the original and have exposed themselves to a few challenges.

2) They enjoy both the tinkering and the exchange of ideas about the enhancements they have made (or have inherited).

My 8N is still running factory wiring, generator, starter, etc.. My 850 has been converted to 12 volts and has no issues. I still read the electrical posts with intrest, someday either tractor may have a problem - heck even that 4WD computer I call a pickup truck may have issues that can be solved with something learned here. Mostly I read them because I like the people who hang out here and like to see what is happening with them even if I can't relate to some specific item.

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Fast Ed Ohio

02-09-2001 14:45:18

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Re: Re: 8 N S in reply to Paul Haas - Pine Island MN, 02-09-2001 03:55:43

Hy guys dont get me wrong here, this is a great forum,I enjoy all points of view,go for it, Fast Ed Ohio

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