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8-N Starter/Ring Gear

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John

02-06-2001 06:42:03




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Thank-you for all your responses to my starter difficulty issue. The new starter I installed,
further loosened the ring gear and is now free spinning. I will replace next weekend. Any words of wisdom or tricks not covered in the I&T Shop Manual? I am trying to locate a clutch pilot tool, does anyone know where I can get one?




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motrack

02-06-2001 16:33:20




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 Re: 8-N Starter/Ring Gear in reply to John, 02-06-2001 06:42:03  
just pull your starter back off, take a stick welder and spot the ring gear to the flywheel in a few places. Save you from breaking your tractor in two..... ...been there and done that.



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Paul Haas - Pine Island MN

02-06-2001 17:06:26




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 Re: Re: 8-N Starter/Ring Gear in reply to motrack, 02-06-2001 16:33:20  
My word!! What a simple solution. I wonder if anyone else smacked themselves upside the head when they read it.



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DavidHep

02-06-2001 15:06:49




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 Re: 8-N Starter/Ring Gear in reply to John, 02-06-2001 06:42:03  
John,
I was not able to locate a clutch pilot tool either, nor did the tools at the local auto parts store seem to be usable. Also I was not able to remove the transmission input shaft as is described in the manual I guess since I have a Sherman type gear installed. Finally, I WAS able to allign the clutch by sight and was able to get things reconnected with a little luck. Hope this helps, David

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Bama8N

02-06-2001 11:24:06




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 Re: 8-N Starter/Ring Gear in reply to John, 02-06-2001 06:42:03  
If I remember right the I&T said to be careful not to heat the new ring above 350 or 375 degrees because it would take the temper out of it. I used temp sticks and at max temp you still couldn't have driven it on with a big hammer. I finally got mad and heated it up til it was "good n hot" and it dropped on like it ought to. I don't know what "temper" they were talking about anyway, the ring is about as soft as it can be. Guess they wear out quicker that way. If you have any trouble getting the old ring off, the I&T method works well. Drill a hole all the way thru the ring and then bust it with a chisel. Pops right off.

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JerryU

02-06-2001 10:22:32




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 Re: 8-N Starter/Ring Gear in reply to John, 02-06-2001 06:42:03  
Most auto parts stores stock a universal clutch alignment tool for under $10 or $15. Saves a lot of aggrivation. As far as the ring gear, if you are going to replace it with a new one you will need to heat it with a torch, if you are using the old one, just tack it on as previously mentioned. I haven't read of anyone having any success with the oven/freezer routine.

IMHO

JU



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ahmet aktimur

11-13-2001 05:28:15




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 Re: Re: 8-N Starter/Ring Gear in reply to JerryU, 02-06-2001 10:22:32  

Dear Sir,

I would like to communicate with the person who is dealing with purchasing of starter ring gear from other companies when needed.we are starter ring gear manufacturing factory in Istanbul-Turkey.We would like to cooperate with you,

Many Thanks

Ahmet Aktimur
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TimK

02-06-2001 12:52:41




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 Re: Re: 8-N Starter/Ring Gear in reply to JerryU, 02-06-2001 10:22:32  
Your right Jerry. I've read posts on this Board where people just dropped the heated ring gear on, no problemo. I did everything accoding to procedure. I heated it in the oven, I even froze the flywheel, I tried a torch and I tried to pound it on evenly, no way. Must've been a ring gear made in lower Kazakhstan.
I finally took it to the auto machine shop, had 'em press it on and tack weld it for security.

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TimK

02-06-2001 12:50:37




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 Re: Re: 8-N Starter/Ring Gear in reply to JerryU, 02-06-2001 10:22:32  
Your right Jerry. I've read posts on this Board where people just dropped the heated ring gear on, no problemo. I did everything accoding to procedure. I heated it in the oven, I even froze the flywheel, I tried a torch and I tried to pound it on evenly, no way. Must've been a ring gear made in lower Kazakhstan.
I finally took it to the auto machine shop, had 'em press it on and tack weld it for security.

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Al English

02-06-2001 11:26:08




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 Re: Re: 8-N Starter/Ring Gear in reply to JerryU, 02-06-2001 10:22:32  
A note on heating ring gears. It needs to be hot, but not too hot. Take your time and heat it evenly all over. Getting it too hot(red is defnitely too hot) will make it brittle and more likely to break or loose teeth at some point in the future....Al English



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TimK

02-06-2001 06:57:47




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 Re: 8-N Starter/Ring Gear in reply to John, 02-06-2001 06:42:03  
If you can't find a clutch pilot tool, pull off the transmission input shaft and use it as a pilot tool. It's easy. If the ring gear isn't torn up, just put some tack welds on it to hold it in place. My $.02



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