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ELECTRIC STARTER FOR HAND CRANKED ENGINES

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ZANE

01-31-2001 12:48:23




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I spent the day yesterday fabricating an electric starter for hand cranked engines.

I have an LUC 2 cylinder John Deere stationairy engine that I have hooked to a Meadows grist mill made in the 30s and it sometimes will throw a tantrum and refuse to start. I have almost had a heart attack winding that thing up not to mention the embarrasment of having a croud of people waiting to see me start making corn meal at a tractor show etc.

Now it can just throw a tantrum if it wants too. I can twist it till the cows come home!!

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John N.

01-31-2001 22:19:59




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 Re: ELECTRIC STARTER FOR HAND CRANKED ENGINES in reply to ZANE , 01-31-2001 12:48:23  
Zane,

This remindes me of an attachment that I put (against my better judgement)on this old guys 1947 (RAT)Harley with a sidecar he wanted me to design and buid something cheap the could be bolted on the sidecar's wheel so that he could back it up easy. Well the easiest and cheapest thing I could think of was a old starter and flywheel off of a old junk 16 hp. Kohler engine that came out of my (Gulp!) John Deere lawn tractor. I mounted a small 12 volt motorcycle battery in behind the seat of his side car and off he went happy as a lark. Old Harleys did have a reverese transmission especially in the servi-cars but in order to have the reverse gear you would loose 4th gear in the transmission and he didn't want to loose his fourth gear. It really didn't look to bad when it was all done either, a real conservational piece I might add.

I think your that your "NEW" ZANE thaing aftermarket starter is an excellent idea, you remember them old model "A" and "B" John Deere tractors with the flywheel on the side that you would have to roll over to start, I thought that was a pain too.

Ideas like this is what makes millionaires.

John

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ZANE

02-04-2001 09:59:38




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 Re: Re: ELECTRIC STARTER FOR HAND CRANKED ENGINES in reply to John N., 01-31-2001 22:19:59  
I would try to make an adapter to start my "B" John Deere but the engine turns the wrong way to do it with my set up like it is. The one I made turns clockwise and the John Deere turns counterclockwise. Shoot!

I haven't made my million yet. Still working on it. :o)

That sounds like a good idea for reverse on the Harley. Necessity is the mother of invention!



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Rob in Enumclaw

02-01-2001 06:47:33




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 Re: Re: ELECTRIC STARTER FOR HAND CRANKED ENGINES in reply to John N., 01-31-2001 22:19:59  
Hey, besides my '47 8N, I've got a '44 JD Lindeman BO crawler, and I can reeeeally relate to your comment about the pain to spin the flywheel to start it. That crawler is a work of art, but I do so appreciate the easy starting 8N....!

Rob



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ZANE

02-04-2001 10:05:41




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 Re: Re: Re: ELECTRIC STARTER FOR HAND CRANKED ENGINES in reply to Rob in Enumclaw, 02-01-2001 06:47:33  
I once had a 1938 International TD 35 bulldozier that you started on Gas and then switched to diesel after it warmed up a bit. It was totally hand start. Not even a place for a starter on the engine. I would have given anything for this starter at that time.
If you ever choked it down while on diesel it was just about impossible to re-start until the plugs were all pulled and cleaned and the engine cooled.
At my age now I would never be able to start that thing.

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Joel (SoCal 44's)

01-31-2001 18:37:48




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 Re: ELECTRIC STARTER FOR HAND CRANKED ENGINES in reply to ZANE , 01-31-2001 12:48:23  
First of all.. ZANE, you need to be on Junkyard Wars (TV show for the craftiest at hand).

Second... What kind of tape is holding that watchamacallit in the pic??? Flew on Lockheeds first L1011 in 1986 and believe it or not, we used gunner's (STRONG green duct tape) tape to hold on a wingtip light cover.

Junkie's away!!!



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ZANE

02-01-2001 18:49:48




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 Re: Re: ELECTRIC STARTER FOR HAND CRANKED ENGINES in reply to Joel (SoCal 44's), 01-31-2001 18:37:48  
The tape is masking tape and it is holding the starter switch on the shaft. I am planing to add a little tab onto the shaft to fasten the switch to but I was impatient as usual to see if it would work and it did.



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Fast Ed Ohio

01-31-2001 16:04:44




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 Re: ELECTRIC STARTER FOR HAND CRANKED ENGINES in reply to ZANE , 01-31-2001 12:48:23  
It aint quite as fancy as a Zane Thang,Now what color should it be? Green and yellow or red and gray ? hmmmmm.



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Steve W

01-31-2001 14:54:17




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 Re: ELECTRIC STARTER FOR HAND CRANKED ENGINES in reply to ZANE , 01-31-2001 12:48:23  
Ya think that stationary engine puts out as much HP as that electric motor? Why not skip it all together....he he he!

Steve
A satisfied "Zane Thang" customer.



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SandyB@TN

01-31-2001 13:35:55




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 Re: ELECTRIC STARTER FOR HAND CRANKED ENGINES in reply to ZANE , 01-31-2001 12:48:23  
Zane,
Don't you just love HighTech?
Sandy



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Jimp CO

01-31-2001 13:21:23




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 Re: ELECTRIC STARTER FOR HAND CRANKED ENGINES in reply to ZANE , 01-31-2001 12:48:23  
A lot better than the old heavy flywheel crank too HUH?
With that setup, who cares if the engine dosen't start the job still gets done.



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