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Nogrimace

01-29-2001 07:13:09




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I have an 8N that is used alot on the farm. Problem is it is a bugger to start in the winter. I took the distributor out last fall and looked it over, new points etc. Ran great when it is warm. During the winter it is real hard to start. I think it is time for a new distributor, or a good used one. I have a new Carb on it, plugs, wires, etc. it is just very hard to start in the winter. any ideas would be appreciated, along with some idea as to getting a new distributor, and some timing tips. My manual tells we on the static timing, any ideas would be appreciated.
Thanks in Advance. My 8n, 1947 starts and runs great, it's the 51 8N that is being a pain. Darned younger tractors, should take head on what the older, wiser tractors do.....

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Duke

01-29-2001 13:22:54




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 Re: 8N distributor in reply to Nogrimace, 01-29-2001 07:13:09  
Try warming the carb and intake manifold with a hair dryer before trying to start it.



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Dave 8N397478

01-29-2001 08:30:30




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 Re: 8N distributor in reply to Nogrimace, 01-29-2001 07:13:09  
If it's cold outside (below zero in Wisconsin) I sometimes will turn my distributor counter clockwise just a hair to change the timing so it's starts easier. After starting I turn it back to original position. Works for me.



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bg

01-29-2001 08:19:23




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 Re: 8N distributor in reply to Nogrimace, 01-29-2001 07:13:09  
There shouldn't be anything in the distributor that would be different in the winter than in summer. I'd do a complete check on the electrical system-"clean, bright and tight"- Dell's mantra- and check the coil. If you have good spark and right timing and the carb is adjusted right, it shouldn't be a problem. Will it start more easily with ether?



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bj/8N/mt

01-29-2001 07:50:45




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 Re: 8N distributor in reply to Nogrimace, 01-29-2001 07:13:09  
Is your 51 model front or side distributor?

if front like the '47 easy enough to swap parts and see if the trouble follows

I'd sure try at least swapping batteries before I threw $200.00 at a distributor



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nogrimace

01-29-2001 08:12:34




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 Re: Re: 8N distributor in reply to bj/8N/mt, 01-29-2001 07:50:45  
side mount distributor. The battery is good.



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bj/8N/mt

01-29-2001 09:29:03




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 Re: Re: Re: 8N distributor in reply to nogrimace, 01-29-2001 08:12:34  
compared to the front mount does it crank as fast?



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nogriamce

01-29-2001 10:04:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N distributor in reply to bj/8N/mt, 01-29-2001 09:29:03  
Yes, it trys to start, but then the starter whirrs. I have tried, either, removing the air hose, gas runs out of the bottom of the carb. after i've flooded it. The points are at .025, good spark to the plugs, it's just a big trial to get the thing started. It might be one of those things that you almost have to be here to try yourself in order to trouble shoot it.



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Greg NE

01-29-2001 13:00:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N distributor in reply to nogriamce, 01-29-2001 10:04:20  
If the starter spins free after it trys to start your starter may have a sticky drive on it, cold weather will make it worse, or your ring gear on your flywheel maybe worn. My dad has a 51 8N also and it does the same thing in the winter. I pulled the starter and put a little oil on the drive and it helped some but it also probably needs a ring gear but don't want to split tractor until it gets worse or have to replace the clutch. Greg NE

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bj8N/mt

01-29-2001 10:26:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N distributor in reply to nogriamce, 01-29-2001 10:04:20  
same question

does the starter in the problem rig sound like it is turning as fast as the one that starts right up

trouble shoot by eliminating things--start with the starting system

or throw parts at it like the dealer flat rate mechs--either way you will fix it eventually



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Matt in MO

01-29-2001 07:33:12




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 Re: 8N distributor in reply to Nogrimace, 01-29-2001 07:13:09  
How's the battery? A weak battery will be much harder to start in the winter than the summer.



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