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Steve

07-14-2003 09:56:28




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My 6 Volt 8N, side distributor, totally original tractor does not start well. When it's turned over it fires once and but does not keep running. After about 5-10 minutes of this it finally starts. The throttle setting and choke do not seem to make a difference.

I rebuilt the carb very carefully, but made no improvement. I also put in 4 new plugs. I do have the Genesse electronic ignition system, which has worked well, but I'm wondering if the battery is low and not providing enough voltage for the ignition to work properly.

Any assistance is appreciated.

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Steve

09-11-2003 04:49:24




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 Re: 8N Starting problems in reply to Steve, 07-14-2003 09:56:28  
I took me forever to diagnose the problem. Believe it or not it was the &9^$#*^% ignition switch.

Pull your connectors off the ignition switch and connect the wires, and see if it makes a difference. I find original Ford 8N ignition switches don't last long. And although my tractor is all original this will be the last $25.00 original ignition switch I buy.

Make sure your carb's in good working conition.

The way to diagnose this problem is to see if there is current going through the ign. wires when it was turning over (there is a small tester you can buy to observe this).

Also make sure you have a good 6V battery.

I hope this helps.

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Fast Ed Ohio

07-14-2003 22:49:20




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 Re: 8N Starting problems in reply to Steve, 07-14-2003 09:56:28  
You might have answered your own question, if that battery is more than a few years old , replace it, I had a similar problem, it was the 10 year old battery .



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Dave OH

07-14-2003 22:44:42




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 Re: 8N Starting problems in reply to Steve, 07-14-2003 09:56:28  
If you put 12v to that system you will destroy the Electronic Module. Don't do it. Jump the ignition switch, this powers the module. If the starter is spinning as it normally did you do not have a low battery. Clean, Bright and Tight connections. Is your compression good?
Dave OH



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SteveB(wi)

07-14-2003 15:10:54




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 Re: Re: 8N Starting problems in reply to Jim Cox, 07-14-2003 11:14:59  
Genesee does make a 6V for the side mount.



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David - OR

07-14-2003 10:57:30




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 Re: 8N Starting problems in reply to Steve, 07-14-2003 09:56:28  
You can buy a new-style "Posi-drive" starter drive to replace the Bendix drive that is on there. This allows the starter to stay engaged longer and is one way to work around this issue.

A good diagnostic/work-around would be to jump-start the tractor with 12 volts. Use a GOOD pair of jumper cables, not cheap 10 AWG Made-in-China junk from Walmart. Make SURE the tractor is in neutral, turn the key on, set the choke and throttle. Connect the jumper cables to the assist vehicle. Connect one of the cables to a good ground on the tractor. Touch (firmly) the other cable to the post on top of the starter. The polarity does not matter.

This will more than likely start the tractor -- the fast spinning of 12 volts will usually provide enough inertial energy to the engine so that it is forced to fire a couple of times before the Bendix kicks out, and it will usually stay running on its own. If it still won't start well, a new 6V battery is unlikely to help.

It may be that your 6V battery is tired enough that its output voltage drops very low under the load of the starter as the engine slooowly turns over. The low voltage may not be enough for the Genesse system to provide a good spark. If the 12 volt jump starts the tractor well, a new 6V battery might be a next step.

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Matt in MO

07-14-2003 10:36:02




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 Re: 8N Starting problems in reply to Steve, 07-14-2003 09:56:28  
How is your fuel flow from the tank to the carb? There are 3 fule filters that should be checked -one in the tank that is part of the shut off valve, another filter screen at the top of the bowl assembly and one where the fuel line connects to the carb.



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