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jjwwrr

07-10-2003 17:57:56




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I just bought my very first tractor. I am very excited. She is a 1940 9N, and I wanted to know if anyone had any tips or comments.

She runs, but I have to pull-start it. I replaced the battery and starter today, but not the problem.

The starter switch is on the dash. Is there a way to by-pass this to see if starter works?




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Gary_N_WV

07-11-2003 07:58:50




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 Re: Just Bought My First Tractor - 1940 9N in reply to jjwwrr, 07-10-2003 17:57:56  
jjwwrr,

My 1939 9N has a key switch for the ignition and a starter button on the left side of the dash.

The tractor normally is a positive ground and the negative side of the battery has the large battery cable running to one of the terminals on the large push button switch mounted in the dash.
From the other side of the large push button switch there is a large cable that runs to the starter terminal.
If this is the way yours is set up, you can use a set of jumper cables and just using one of the cables, jumper from the negative side of the battery down to the starter terminal.
If your starter will turn, then it is either the connections in the battery cables or a bad push button switch.
To check the push button switch, (use just an old screw driver or something that you don't care gets burned a little because you will get a pretty good spark) jumper the 2 terminals on the back of the big push button switch. By shorting these 2 terminal, you are bypassing the switch and making a direct connection.
If your starter starts to turn, then your switch is bad or the connections to it are bad.

If....someone has changed the battery and has the "ground to the frame" hooked to the negative side of the battery, all the proceedures are the same as above..... ...but there are other reasons that the positive side of the battery should be the ground, and you can worry about that later if that be the case.

Above all....make damned sure your tractor is in neutral and the wheels blocked, before you try any of this.

If your ignition and push button are a different set up than this..... .....then ignore this message !

G'day mate !

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jjwwrr

07-11-2003 16:25:03




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 Re: Re: Just Bought My First Tractor - 1940 9N in reply to Gary_N_WV, 07-11-2003 07:58:50  

Thanks for the help and info. I by-passed the push button, and the starter works just fine. I ordered a new button today. It will be here in a few days.



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ZANE

07-11-2003 06:29:07




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 Re: Just Bought My First Tractor - 1940 9N in reply to jjwwrr, 07-10-2003 17:57:56  
See the link below for information you will need to use most modern implements that require pisition or height control of the lift.

The 9N does not have this feature originally.



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don t. - 9n180179

07-11-2003 05:07:38




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 Re: Just Bought My First Tractor - 1940 9N in reply to jjwwrr, 07-10-2003 17:57:56  
Somewhere down the line your gonna need a zane thang, position control for 9n/2n's. Search the archives for this and MANY other things. Good luck...play safe...don t. ...



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Rob

07-11-2003 04:47:40




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 Re: Just Bought My First Tractor - 1940 9N in reply to jjwwrr, 07-10-2003 17:57:56  
The starter switch is down on the tranny. That's the ignition switch on the dash. The ignition switch puts juice on the coil. If she runs then juice is getting through the ignition switch.
The starter gets its juice through the starter relay under the battery which is engaged when you push the starter switch down on the tranny.
The starter switch is locked out unless the tranny is in nuetral or you press in the clutch.
You can put batt volts on the starter by jumping the starter relay with a screwdriver. It won't start unless the ignition switch is on.

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jjwwrr

07-11-2003 16:25:31




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 Re: Re: Just Bought My First Tractor - 1940 9N in reply to Rob, 07-11-2003 04:47:40  
My tractor has a key switch on the right side, and a push button on the left side of the dash.

Thanks for the help and info. I by-passed the push button, and the starter works just fine. I ordered a new button today. It will be here in a few days.



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rbell

07-11-2003 05:38:38




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 Re: Re: Just Bought My First Tractor - 1940 9N in reply to Rob, 07-11-2003 04:47:40  
Well doggies. Congratulations
You may want to look close at the switch on the dash. Is there a key and a push button on your dash?
Early 40 models can have the dash mounted push button. Later models have what looks like a dimmer switch in front of the shifter (it is an early neutral lock thing:-)
As others say careful when playing with the thing trying to figure it out. MAKE SURE it is in NEUTRAL (we want to hear from you again)

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jjwwrr

07-11-2003 16:34:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Just Bought My First Tractor - 1940 9N in reply to rbell, 07-11-2003 05:38:38  
What's good compression on these tractors? I am sure it is different then a car or truck.



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souNdguy

07-10-2003 21:44:03




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 Re: Just Bought My First Tractor - 1940 9N in reply to jjwwrr, 07-10-2003 17:57:56  
For a test, should be easy to bypass the starter.... just be careful, and make sure you are in neutral.. and don't run yourself over.
Jumper cables will help in the test... starter is already grounded to the tractor.. all it needs is power .. ( which was - from the factory when oem 6v pos grnd setup ).

Be carefull!

Soundguy



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jjwwrr

07-11-2003 16:28:13




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 Re: Re: Just Bought My First Tractor - 1940 9N in reply to souNdguy, 07-10-2003 21:44:03  

Thanks for the help and info. I by-passed the push button, and the starter works just fine. I ordered a new button today. It will be here in a few days.



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souNdguy

07-11-2003 21:11:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Just Bought My First Tractor - 1940 9N in reply to jjwwrr, 07-11-2003 16:28:13  
Glad you found the problem

Good luck and happy tractoring,

Soundguy



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BOB

07-10-2003 18:11:05




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 Re: Just Bought My First Tractor - 1940 9N in reply to jjwwrr, 07-10-2003 17:57:56  
Glad that you are a owner of a fine tractor after 60+ years of running
as for pull starting sounds like low compresson
and you said replaced starter? but not problem? starter switch bad see if starter works maybe you didnt need starter after all.
is this 6volt or 12 volt?



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jjwwrr

07-11-2003 16:33:40




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 Re: Re: Just Bought My First Tractor - 1940 9N in reply to BOB, 07-10-2003 18:11:05  
My tractor has a key switch on the right side, and a push button on the left side of the dash. It is a 6volt.

Thanks for the help and info. I by-passed the push button, and the starter works just fine. I ordered a new button today. It will be here in a few days.

What's good compression on these tractors? I am sure it is different then a car or truck.



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