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Locking nut repair for stripped axle threads

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tj

07-01-2003 10:07:10




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My hub retaining nut and axle threads are both stripped to the point that it can only be tightened to a snug condition with a wrench. It currently has one of the locking repair nuts on it.

I've read many posts on the topic of the repair nut thats available for an 8n but could not find the actual procedure explained. So I am wondering if this is correct:

So I assume the idea is to put the repair nut onto the axle, hold it w/ a wrench, and then thread the outside locking nut onto it, tightening it to 450 ft-lbs. The problem is that I cant hold the inner nut on with my pipe wrench and tighten the outer nut simultaneously due to the width of the tool itself.

I am planning on making a wrench to fit the inner nut out of a piece of 1/4" steel. Is this the iprocedure. Any help is appreciated.

This board is an invaluable resource to rookies like me.

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tj

07-03-2003 10:28:45




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 Re: Locking nut repair for stripped axle threads in reply to tj, 07-01-2003 10:07:10  
I put the inner nut on, threaded it all the way on and it tightened up fairly good. I was afraid to tighten to much for fear of stripping it again.

I couldn't get the outer nut on as it appeared that it had expanded, so I backed the inner nut it off until it would go on. Actually had to bend the outer split portion of the nut down a bit. Then I turned the outer nut a ways, until it started turning the inner nut, then I turned them together until the wheel had no slop in it - It was about at the same point when the wheel had been snug the first time. Then I tightened the outer by itself I guess I put about 200 ft-lbs on it, before I started getting low on threads. I could not turn them both together as I dont have a socket that big - I'll probaly go and get one of those cheap imported 3/4" drive sets now. I figure it will be ok, at least until I get my new sockets. I'll try it out this weekend and post if it worked.

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Rob

07-03-2003 11:49:13




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 Re: Re: Locking nut repair for stripped axle threa in reply to tj, 07-03-2003 10:28:45  
Yeah, that sounds like it. I figure you have to work them both some until you get it up hard. Check a pawn shop for that socket set, you might save a few bucks. All you really need is a 3/4" breaker bar and one socket but having a set to work on these tractors is the way to go. Fact is I own a lot more sockets then nuts to put em on. I only use mine rarely but it makes a BIG difference when I can use em. You can work on the impliments and their hitch pins and now this axle without breaking a sweat or busting your knuckles. Lot less cussing when you have 3/4" drive sockets.
Don't forget an adapter so you can get down to your torque and impact wrench size.

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tj

07-02-2003 07:00:43




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 Re: Re: Locking nut repair for stripped axle threa in reply to Rob, 07-01-2003 10:42:55  
I was afraid that If I start tightening the outer nut, the ineer nut will start turning as well, and if it goes so far, it will loosen up again - but you're right, by then the outer nut will have th inner nut it snug enough that it shouldn't strip . I just bought it and intend to do it tonight. Thanks for your comment.



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Rob

07-02-2003 07:13:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Locking nut repair for stripped axle t in reply to tj, 07-02-2003 07:00:43  
Let me know how it plays out. Torque and all, whatever.



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tj

07-17-2003 10:10:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Locking nut repair for stripped ax in reply to Rob, 07-02-2003 07:13:26  
Well I got my Chinese 3/4" socket set in the mail yesterday, and tightened that double nut to about 200-300ft-lbs or so and it stripped again.

I guess I didn't have the 2nd nut on tight enough when I started tightening both. It's still pretty tight, I see how long it lasts. I guess welding the nut on the axle is my last resort before replacing the axle.



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Rob

07-17-2003 13:48:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Locking nut repair for strippe in reply to tj, 07-17-2003 10:10:43  
Sounds like a guy needs to tighten that nut with the 2nd nut only.
This 8N was welded and loose. Seems you need to have that torque on it or it will wobble loose regardless of the weld. Welding will forstall the axle replacement is all. If I had to weld it I would probably leave room to drive a wedge/shim to put the final torque on the hub. That make sense? You just have to get it super tight. Holding the nut with a weld is not enough.
Just my thinking.

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tj

07-03-2003 10:31:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Locking nut repair for stripped ax in reply to Rob, 07-02-2003 07:13:26  
I posted what I did under the main message, not your followup by accident - I'm still learning how the messages work.



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