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Leveling old furrows

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Mikegsd

04-15-2003 09:16:46




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That was the best I could come up with for a subject line I have a section of my field that was plowed and planted by the old owner of the property, about 330' x 100'. Trouble is that it's over-grown with tall weeds and grass. If I cut it down with a bush hog, I'll still have all the very deep, sloppy furrows from the last plowing it got. I'd like to level it out and replant grass seed, but I'm not sure what I should do. I have a disc harrow and a 2 bottom plow along with a working 9n that came with the place. Should I start with these? Also a 6' grader, but I'm assuming that this would be difficult for this purpose. Think 6' tall weeds that have now died down. 'Course if you tell me to use the plow and harrow, that'll bring up more questions!
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Mike

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Fast Ed Ohio

04-15-2003 23:42:07




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 Re: Leveling old furrows in reply to Mikegsd, 04-15-2003 09:16:46  
Well , I would use the discs for a few passes and see what happens,if not satisfied go in the opisite direction with a few passes, things should start to break up and smothe out.



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2fordsmike...what a mess, but there is hope

04-15-2003 14:56:31




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 Re: Leveling old furrows in reply to Mikegsd, 04-15-2003 09:16:46  
Hmmmm! Six-foot weeds! Guess I'd hook on to the disk and disk around the outside in hopes of bringing up enough black dirt to make a fire break; then I'd try to burn it. If there is one deep, old dead furrow (the last one through a field) I would "open a land" (start to plow in the middle, throwing dirt into the dead furrow and plow out from there); then I'd disk it a couple of times and make a very firm seedbed for grass seed. I would probably also seed oats with the grass as a nurse crop to shade the grass and to crowd out weeds.When the oats are in the milk stage, I'd bush hog them about six-inches high to let the new grass thrive. If you can't burn and you can't til the weeds in some manner, I would start with a dose of Roundup to kill back all vegetation. Good luck. Mike-Iowa

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souNdguy

04-15-2003 11:10:28




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 Re: Leveling old furrows in reply to Mikegsd, 04-15-2003 09:16:46  
Gotta agree.. disc harrowing will level it pretty good once you can get it to cut.. the weeds are a bit of a problem.. they can clog the disc.. though depends how burley they are.. if they are nothing more than holloy old twigs.. a heavy disc will cut well.

I would hog or burn if possible.. and turn them into the ground as a last resort... though, sounds like what you might have to do..... Your N is a great plow machine.. and should disc well too.

Soundguy

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VTjim

04-15-2003 10:36:39




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 Re: Leveling old furrows in reply to Mikegsd, 04-15-2003 09:16:46  
Disk will cut up the trash weeds (assuming they are notched disks) if you don't burn them. On leveling out some poor plowing, I've had luck in running my plow perpendicular to the old furrows, then running the plow in the opposite direction at a 45 degree angle. Then ran a drag harrow over it (could use a railroad tie as dell said). I've also run a cultivator 90 degree's to the furrows with success....many methods, each with varing degrees of success. Good luck.

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James

04-15-2003 10:02:59




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 Re: Leveling old furrows in reply to Mikegsd, 04-15-2003 09:16:46  
Well..... if'n it was me....and the weed cover was as bad as you make it out to be.....first thing I would do is have a good old fashion control burn to reduce the ground cover to a very managable coating of ash! I'm not sure I fully understand the origin of the "very deep, sloppy furrows"....was the job just not finished?....or is the entire field criss-crossed with open furrows? In either event....once the weeds are reduced to ashes I'd run over the furrows with a heavily weighted disc harrow and see if that doesn't close em up a bit..... might want to broadcast a little managable grass seed out there too..... since nothing will work harder for you at controlling weeds then a good stand of grass! Good luck!

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mikegsd

04-15-2003 10:23:37




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 Re: Re: Leveling old furrows in reply to James, 04-15-2003 10:02:59  
I mean sloppy as it appears that it had grown over, then was turned with a plow, but not evenly. There are huge diferences in depth, and the ground doesn't appear to have been broken up with a disc or anything else afterwards. Then it was left alone at least one season and just bush hogged. The hog is broken, so last year it wasn't cut at all. I'm talking grass and weeds over 6' tall! :-) I didn't know if it was safe to disc it or not. Still have to determine if the discs still turn or not too.

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Dell (WA)

04-15-2003 09:29:28




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 Re: Leveling old furrows in reply to Mikegsd, 04-15-2003 09:16:46  
Mike..... ....brushog all your stuff, then roundy-round with your disc harrow, maybe 6 or more times around to cut-up all the plow clods and kinda level everything out. Do it in 50 X 330 overlapping ovals, altho 100 X 165 overlapping ovals would work too. (the 330 would give you time to relax and watch what you are doing) Don't use the grader blade. Then spred your grass seed and drag a railroad tie on ends of chain to slightly cover the grass seed and then pray for rain..... ..Dell

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