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640 vs 8N
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Jon

04-05-2003 14:46:26




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I have two tractors that I am looking at, both appear to be in the same (very good) shape mechanically.

The 640 (or 641?) has great paint, good tin. I.e. - looks just like a recently restored tractor.

The 8N has a poor grill, rest of tin OK, good, but older paint. Bottom, line, does not look as good.

8N has Sherman tranny. Both are same price - 2,800

Trying to decide between the both. I figure the samller sizer of the 8N, might be an advantage in the woods and around the house. 640 might be better at pulling stumps, if that is possible with either tractor. I know that I am being blinded by the newer paint on the 640, but again, the price is the same.

Any opinions?

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Jon

04-07-2003 03:41:14




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 Re: 640 vs 8N - what to buy? in reply to Jon, 04-05-2003 14:46:26  
Well, I went with the 640. It's nice looking great running tractor and I am pleased with my decision. Thanks for all the input - really helped a lot. I still have a soft spot for the 8N, despite my limited introduction. Had it been cheaper and as close to hone as the 640 (that came with free delivery), I'm sure I would have swayed to it and been happy.

My next problem it answering the spouses question "What are we gonna do with this tractor?" (Almost all my land is woods)

Oh well! Hoping a box blade will allow me to cut a trail into my 19 acres

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Mountainman

04-06-2003 10:41:20




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 Re: 640 vs 8N - what to buy? in reply to Jon, 04-05-2003 14:46:26  
Why not get them both. You can sell one later if you decide to. And you get to try them both out doing what you need them for.

N - joy.

Mountainman...CA



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2fordsmike

04-06-2003 08:48:30




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 Re: 640 vs 8N - what to buy? in reply to Jon, 04-05-2003 14:46:26  
The 640 Ford is one of the best American made Fords. It is just as handy as 8N, has far better engine, hydraulics and brakes. If it need parts, they are readily available and not much more expensive. Many folks think the 8N is cuter, but the 640 caused many 8N owners to trade up 40-some years ago. You're lucky to find a good one for sale. Most good Fords are promised to brother, son or favorite neighbor! Mike-Iowa

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Andrew

04-05-2003 17:46:22




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 Re: 640 vs 8N - what to buy? in reply to Jon, 04-05-2003 14:46:26  
If your going top be doing some pulling, I sugest that you have something like a blade on the three point hitch. That way if you start to flip the blade will stop it from going over. you wont be able to pull very big stumps out with either tractor. some times I pull at the stump and backinto it with the blade to move it the other way. keep doing this till it comes out.



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Ultradog MN

04-05-2003 15:56:51




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 Re: 640 vs 8N - what to buy? in reply to Jon, 04-05-2003 14:46:26  
I agree with BG.
Buy the 640.
You'll spend a little more $ for gas to run it but it'll do everything an N will do plus some things that an N wont.
That is a pretty good price for a 640 at least in these parts it is.
Good luck. And post back and tell us which one you buy.



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John

04-05-2003 15:53:02




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 Re: 640 vs 8N - what to buy? in reply to Jon, 04-05-2003 14:46:26  
I've decided, that I am NOT pulling stumps after talking to a few people.

John



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Joe Ferguson

04-06-2003 16:17:26




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 Re: Re: 640 vs 8N - what to buy? in reply to John, 04-05-2003 15:53:02  
Hi John

You are sage and prudent to not pull stumps with
your farm tractor. We have seen enough accidents
caused by tractors missuse. When I have stumps to
pull I ask a bulldozer owner to come when he come
in my neighborhood it cost me some $$$ but it
may cost more than that to repair my tractor because pulling stumps is an official little tractor abuse and extremely dangerous.

Good luck with your new one


Joe Freguson

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no contest.............bg

04-05-2003 15:14:49




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 Re: 640 vs 8N - what to buy? in reply to Jon, 04-05-2003 14:46:26  
The 640 will win every time. More HP, OHV engine. Unless you're just hung up on the cuteness of the 8n, the 640 is the way to go.



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steve

04-05-2003 15:06:15




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 Re: 640 vs 8N - what to buy? in reply to Jon, 04-05-2003 14:46:26  
well, i dont think you should ask that question on this bord because we are all Ners so you will probably be told to get the 8n, but im not sure wich one is your better bet b/c im not fimilar with the 640s.



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Pitch

04-05-2003 15:26:26




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 Re: Re: 640 vs 8N - what to buy? in reply to steve, 04-05-2003 15:06:15  
Which ever one you decide on when you go to pull thse stumps make sure that you hook to below the diffrential and NOT to the three point lift arms. We do not want to have to send your family flowers 'cause you rolled your tractor over on yourself.



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Week N Warrior (MS/MO)

04-05-2003 16:18:22




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 Re: Re: Re: 640 vs 8N - what to buy? in reply to Pitch, 04-05-2003 15:26:26  
"make sure that you hook to below the diffrential and NOT to the three point lift arms." Got a question about that.
What down there is left to hook to?

Carl



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Truck

04-05-2003 16:54:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 640 vs 8N - what to buy? in reply to Week N Warrior (MS/MO), 04-05-2003 16:18:22  
What's left to pull from? Hopefully a nice solid drawbar.Drop a clevis in the hole and tie off to that. If you don't have a swinging or rigid drawbar, get one. That is, if you are into things like pulling two wheeled wagons, and tugging on stuff. (Yes, you can install the rigid links and pull from the big long drawbar too, but then it's easy to get into the habit of pulling from it without the rigid setup. There is NO resistance to upward motion, and pretty soon the drawbar could be above the axle and help cause a backflip. (Also do not use the toplink attachment to pull from. )

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Week N Warrior (MS/MO)

04-05-2003 17:55:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 640 vs 8N - what to buy? in reply to Truck, 04-05-2003 16:54:28  
Sorry, but I�m not really clear on this. I plan on trying to move a playhouse out of the back yard on a 20� 4 wheeled trailer. Not enough room to use my pickup. Isn�t a swinging drawbar the flat bar that goes to the two bottom links on the 3-pt.? So aren't you using the 3-pt.? I�ve looked on Ebay and found two types. One the flat bar and the other is tube steel that also hooks up to the top link. I was thinking to build one like that and make a pair of stabilizer bars. �You can install the rigid links and pull from the big long drawbar too�
I�m not sure what you mean by that. Or what you mean by a rigid set up.
On the 8N there is some type of bracket under the differential that that 9N & 2N don�t have. Are you referring to using that some how? Well I guess Ebay does have a third type. Maybe that is the one you are talking about. But I couldn�t really tell how it works.

Carl

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Daniel

04-05-2003 18:32:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 640 vs 8N - what to buy? in reply to Week N Warrior (MS/MO), 04-05-2003 17:55:30  
A swinging drawbar sticks out from under the differential and is free to move from side to side when harrowing for example. The bracket, just below the PTO, has a series of holes so you can drop in a pin on either side and limit or stop altogether the drawbar from moving side to side to pull a wagon for example. The drawbar between the three point links is dangerous because there is no resistance to the arms moving up which change the pulling point and can flip the tractor over. There is a pair of stay bars that can be run from the long pin below the toplink bracket down at a slight oangle to the three point arm to stop the bar from moving up. Note these are NOT the same stay bars that are used to keep an implement from swinging side to side. Thoese bar run up to pins on the fender brackets. I suggest an owners manual which shows how to safely use the draw bar.

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souNdguy

04-07-2003 13:11:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 640 vs 8N - what to buy? in reply to Larry 8N75381, 04-05-2003 18:24:07  
I see those stabilizer arms are mounted to the toplink mount.. could they also be mounted instead to the holes in the casting on either side of the toplink mount?

Soundguy



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