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mark-r

03-24-2003 04:20:58




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I am replacing the clutch on my 8N - got the tractor split and the clutch & flywheel off to be resurfaced. I can't figure out how to get the throwout bearing off of the hub. I'd also like to replace the input shaft seal, cone bearing, and cup but I'm clueless on how to get them off. I have the parts and figure this is a good time to do the job, but I don't want to create problems by breaking something. Do I need special tools? Detailed instructions would help, as this is the first time I've tried such a project. I'm taking the flywheel to the machine shop and I'll take these parts if I can't do it myself, but I would like to save on labor costs.
Any suggestions are welcome.
Thanks

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mark-r

03-24-2003 09:11:57




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 Re: 8N bearing removal - help needed! in reply to mark-r, 03-24-2003 04:20:58  
Thanks for the advise. I will probably not replace the input shaft seal, bearing, and cone as they are in good shape. I bought the parts before I tore into it just in case I needed them. I'll keep them and hope I never need them.

I could still use some more information on how to get the throwout bearing off and replaced. Sorry about my ignorance.



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Dave Smith

03-24-2003 09:43:00




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 Re: Re: 8N bearing removal - help needed! in reply to mark-r, 03-24-2003 09:11:57  
I would also change the seal on the input shaft.
The pilot bearing can be removed by packing the back side of it with grease. Be sure it is full.
Then use a wooden dowel slightly smaller than the size of the shaft and pack it in with a hammer. Compressing the grease will push the bearing out. But it would just be easyer to go to Auto Zone and borrow a puller or buy one $15.
Dave <*)))><

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Hobo,NC

03-24-2003 09:28:34




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 Re: Re: 8N bearing removal - help needed! in reply to mark-r, 03-24-2003 09:11:57  
I would replace the seal.



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Hobo,NC

03-24-2003 05:55:57




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 Re: 8N bearing removal - help needed! in reply to mark-r, 03-24-2003 04:20:58  
note how the seal comes out and replace it the same. It is easy to install it backwards. The spring will face the transmission. The best money you can spend is to have someone to replace the bearing and cup. I see no need to replace bearing and cup if it looks good. If it needs replaceing the rest of the bearings in the transmission need to be replaced also.



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Dave Smith

03-24-2003 05:17:38




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 Re: 8N bearing removal - help needed! in reply to mark-r, 03-24-2003 04:20:58  
This is a bearing puller I fabricated out of some scrap. I was not able to find one of a design like this to buy. Hook the two inner hooks onto the back of the bearing (there is opening on the cast for that)Then just evenly and slowley draw up the two outer bolts. Brought the bearing cup right out. The seal can be driven out from the back side with a long punch or bar. Dave <*)))><
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ZANE

03-24-2003 04:41:16




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 Re: 8N bearing removal - help needed! in reply to mark-r, 03-24-2003 04:20:58  
To remove the input shaft bearing you may have to burn it off with an acetylene torch unless you have a bearing puller yoke and a press etc.

The race or cone can be removed by welding a bead all the way around it and allowd to cool to room temperature. This will shrink the cone and allow it to be taken out of the housing.

The seal can be knocked out with a long screwdriver or a drift. You will need a big socket or pipe of the correct size to drive the new seal back in the housing without distorting it.

The bearing and cone can be installed by striking on the inside race with a drift or chisel etc being careful not to damage the roller retainer on the bearing.

I would carefully inspect the old bearing first to be sure it even needs to be replaced. The housing is shimmed for proper bearing preload with either metal shims or multiple gaskets and if the bearing is not damaged or pitted it may be possible to just remove shims to gain the preload for the bearing. If you can push and pull on the shaft after the housing has been replaced with the bearings etc. then you do not have enough shims removed. There should be no in and out movement after it is installed and torqued.

You can also remove all the gaskets and shims and use 3M silicone glue instead of a gasket if you need more bearing preload.

If you can't get enough preload when all gaskets are removed then the rear bearing will need to be replaced or the pilot bearing inside the transmission on the top shaft. This will require removal of the top shaft from the transmission unless you have a way to pull the bearing come off the top transmission shaft.

Zane

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Hi,ZANE...John,PA

03-24-2003 05:48:36




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 Re: Re: 8N bearing removal - help needed! in reply to ZANE, 03-24-2003 04:41:16  
Morn'n Sir,

Was at an art show down here in P-Cola.

Saw some nice painted pictures of farm scenes from all over the US of A. Nice N's. Problem for me was couldn't spend $$. Haven't saw the peach blossoms yet. Possible April freeze could wipe out for 3rd. yr in a row.

Artisan was from your neck of the woods.

Also, the artisan blacksmith was able to make gorgeous things from old tractor, bicycle, and sickle-bar mower junk. Gee, I wish that I had artistic skills.

Didn't see many folks buying much, though. I guess the crowds are nervous about spend'n money.

Top of the morn'n, Sir.

Thanks for listen'n.

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