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Scott- NC

03-11-2003 06:37:34




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What is the safest method or point of attaching a chain to an N to "snatch" something that doesn't want to move? My lift arms are now back staight and the lower lift arms housing mounts are sealed-up and I'd like to keep things that way. Probably bent and tweeked things pulling stumps while cleaning up after this winters ice storms.




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Bob - MI

03-11-2003 18:56:26




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 Re: Pulling stumps in reply to Scott- NC, 03-11-2003 06:37:34  
From a guy who broke his gear train, pulling stumps is something for someone else to do. Small ones, yeah probably OK. Larger ones that don't come right out, BEWARE! I had a 8" sasafrass stump hang up as I was pulling and I was dumb enough to give it more throttle and pop the clutch. Stump won, and I replaced the pinion gear, drive coupler, bearings and all sorts of other stuff.

I have a loader on my 2N so I have some counter-weight and I think that's a big factor why I'm here today and not sleepin' low because I flipped the rig over on myself.

Will I pull another stump out, probably. I'll be far more careful next time and take the good advice of all on the board and use my head, not the throttle and the clutch.

Good Luck

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Scott-NC- thanks for the responces

03-11-2003 16:03:22




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 Re: Pulling stumps in reply to Scott- NC, 03-11-2003 06:37:34  
The wheel sounds good, as does the block and tackle....especially since I own one of each! I will check the archives. I can show them to my wife after I proof read them. With any luck she'll be impressed to see what a manly risk taker I am and I'll get lucky! More than likely she will shake her finger at me, tell me I'm a dumb-ass who shouldn't be left alone with power tools. Then she'll cut me off!

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Whooly

03-11-2003 13:20:41




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 Re: Pulling stumps in reply to Scott- NC, 03-11-2003 06:37:34  
Scott - generally speaking people are right when they say an 8N isn't made to pull stumps. With the right setup and precautions though you can pull some pretty big stuff. I use a '48 8N with a swinging drawbar and lift stays. My tires are filled and have chains. When I cut the tree I leave as tall a stump as possible. I then attach a heavy nylon tow strap at the top of the trunk (to give as much of a lever as possible). It depends what you're pulling, and in what kind of soil, but as a rule I can figure on pulling up to about a 10" diameter stump without assistance. Now, if you really want to pull big stuff, use a heavy block and tackle. Mine uses 150 ft of 3/4" nylon. If you can attach the fixed end of the B&T to the base of another tree, you'd be amazed at what you can rip out of the ground. I've had no problem with 2 ft. diameter pines (not real deep root system, but real broad). I've pulled a couple of hundred stumps over the years and haven't damaged the 8N yet. But, I also NEVER jerk her hard. If it won't come out of the ground on a dead pull, use the B&T. Be careful!

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drewjunr

03-11-2003 12:27:29




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 Re: Pulling stumps in reply to Scott- NC, 03-11-2003 06:37:34  
I've tried it both ways pulling and pushing. I pulled off my front bumber...broke the 2 bolts off and bent up the bumper good. The next time I dug out a pine stump...3 ft down, cut all of the roots except the tap and pushed. Ended up breaking a brand new box blade, right behind the connecting pin, it bent and cracked.

Since those times I have have treated her better...no more stumps. It is not worth breaking a perfectly good tractor when it was not made to tackle something that stubborn.

Drew

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Upper Peninsula, Mich

03-11-2003 11:24:17




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 Re: Pulling stumps in reply to Scott- NC, 03-11-2003 06:37:34  
Hi Scott. Can't tell you enough times, do not pull stumps with your N tractor. Not made for it. Even some small ones can give you trouble. Get the right equipment. I use the double bottom plow to dig, cut and pull out small stuff. Use big equipment for big stumps. Carefull & think a long time before you try anything new with your N, or ask questions.



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GZ MAG TX

03-11-2003 11:07:55




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 Re: Pulling stumps in reply to Scott- NC, 03-11-2003 06:37:34  
N aren't for snatching

Be careful...go to the archives and do a search on "killed".

There are several posts regarding fellas who have bought the farm when they tried to jerk something out of the ground.



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James

03-11-2003 09:49:27




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 Re: Pulling stumps in reply to Scott- NC, 03-11-2003 06:37:34  
Toughest thing I ever try to pull is an occassional steel fence post. I agree...the shock at the end of the chain when trying to pull something that is basically designed by God to be immovable is much too severe on an N'ie of any variety to make it worthwhile to even try. When I want to skid a log I disengage the PTO (and hyrda pump) and put on the drawbar and center mount stabilizer arms....put a clevis on the drawbar and then use a really long chain to minimize pull up on the front wheels.

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DRAWBAR! Jeff Hoo

03-11-2003 07:00:31




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 Re: Pulling stumps in reply to Scott- NC, 03-11-2003 06:37:34  
Gotta have the swinging drawbar. Pull low.

I put a wheel rim under the chain as a pulley to pull "up" on the stump as the tractor moves forward.

I can't pull much beyond a 6" cedar out with the N, tho.



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phil so.il.

03-11-2003 11:14:15




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 Re: Re: Pulling stumps in reply to DRAWBAR! Jeff Hoo, 03-11-2003 07:00:31  
Jeff Hoo, good idea using the rim will have to give it a try on my next stump pulling adventure.



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Arne - Idaho

03-11-2003 11:55:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Pulling stumps in reply to phil so.il., 03-11-2003 11:14:15  
works good for fence posts too.

Arne



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souNdguy

03-11-2003 07:00:22




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 Re: Pulling stumps in reply to Scott- NC, 03-11-2003 06:37:34  
I can't speak for others... but I'm not a big fan of hooking up to 'imoveable objects' with my "no rops" tractor and 'snatching'. Besides the obvious shock load on the tranny.. seems so unsafe. I guess if they were 1-2 inch sapplings.. ok.. perhaps a pull in reverse from the front bumper... least the tractor wouldn't roll back on you...

SouNdguy



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