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(OT) Well Probelm Continued

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Richard

01-26-2003 02:07:44




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First I want to say thank you to the men who repsonded to my question two days ago. I learned a great deal from the replies. Here is why I lost all water pressure and had no water for three days:

The well pump was fried.

The 300 foot drilled well pump was fried AND the well line that enters into the house was frozen. What came first? the chicken or the egg is my guess. Did the pipe freeze first and the pump kept on running?

But here is what else we found:

The Merril pitless adapter that ties the water line to the well house about 10 feet below ground was spraying water. We pulled up the pipe again to look at that thinking it was a bad connection but the pitless adapter had a split.

We took it over to a friends hose and he brazed the bronze fitting and we reinstalled and connected it to the casing. No one carries them around here anyhow.

What came first? the chicken or the egg? The split was not new but seemed to be old and getting worse.

Was there loss of pressure from the water coming out of the connection that kept the pump running causing it to burn and then because water was sluggishly moving up the water line to the house maybe it froze too?

It is anyones guess.

I am also going to install a water line heater that runs inside the pipe about 15 feet from the outside of the house and down grade inside the pipe. It runs off a thermostat and will keep that water line free when the next cold snap arrives this week. I am shoveling snow and banking it up at the house where the water line comes in to help insulate it better.

I've gone though more than half of my wood supply too this winter. The pile is getting lean.

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Richard

01-26-2003 19:58:05




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 Re: (OT) Well Probelm Continued in reply to Richard, 01-26-2003 02:07:44  
It was expensive. 850 for the pump alone. 10 hours of labor, installed 300 feet of pump wiring all new electric wire and removed the old. the pipe line heater will be another 300.00. I'm guessing it will be around 1500.00 when it's done.
the cost of convenience. It is easier than walking down to the river with buckets, building a fire, thawing snow and ice, and going outside into a one or two holer too.

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Rick Thomson

11-02-2003 09:28:53




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 Re: Re: (OT) Well Probelm Continued in reply to Richard, 01-26-2003 19:58:05  
Could Richard please tell me where one can get a Pipe Line Water Heater for a buried water line.
Thank you for your Response.
I'm in Calgary Alberta.



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Pitch

01-26-2003 08:36:13




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 Re: (OT) Well Probelm Continued in reply to Richard, 01-26-2003 02:07:44  
Thanks for posting your results.Was getting curious as to how you made out. Sorry that it wasn't the cheaper of the possibilities. At least now that it is your installation you can be sure that it is done properly with as many failsafes as needed.



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MarviN (OR)

01-26-2003 05:58:39




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 Re: (OT) Well Probelm Continued in reply to Richard, 01-26-2003 02:07:44  
It sounds like you got some professional help. Just how cold has been getting around your place? If your adapter is leaving the well at ten feet deep where did it freeze? I am assuming somewhere closer to the house. I guess the pressure switch is still working.....

Glad to hear you have water again. Sometimes you never get to appreciate all the simple conviences of the modern world until you don't have one...

Marvin

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Ohiosteve

01-26-2003 05:53:18




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 Re: (OT) Well Probelm Continued in reply to Richard, 01-26-2003 02:07:44  
Richard, I would bet that the line froze first and the
pump was laboring against this blockage which
either caused the adapter to split or made it worse than it was. The fact that had an old split
may be an indication that this situation has occured before, just not as severe. Im sorry that
you had to deal with this problem during the severe cold. In the twenty years that I've lived
here my pump has failed three times, always in the
summer or fall. People tell me that these pumps have a 7-10 year life span. I can imagine that the
plastic pipe was mighty stiff when you reinstalled the pump!

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Les, TN

01-26-2003 07:15:41




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 Re: Re: (OT) Well Probelm Continued in reply to Ohiosteve, 01-26-2003 05:53:18  
Yeah, last time ours went out there was a snake inside the pump motor (shallow well jet pump). It got wrapped up around the rotor and slung around, breaking a wire. Took it to a motor repair shop, they found the problem, soldered it for about $10 and we were good ta go.

Bet ya had ta write a bigger check than that! I just recently added heat tape to the pressure tank in/outflow and also wrapped it around the pressure switch and gauge. Got tired of going out there in the Brrr with a hair dryer ta git the switch working again. -1 a couple of days ago and nuthin froze so guess it's workin.

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