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LLAMAS ON MONSTER GARAGE SHOW LAST WEEKEND

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ZANE

01-23-2003 13:47:13




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I set my VCR after much study and prayer so I could record Llamas on the Monster Garage show. I didn't know for sure what time it was going to be on here in Talladega so I set it to cover about 6 hours of that evenings programs so I would be sure to get it.(I knew if I didn't do it this way I would never remember to watch.

I will say right off that Llamas in my learned opinion was the only one there that looked like he had ever been to school! :O) I don't know about the rest of that bunch of guys???? Sort of strange looking to me. I know one thing for sure and that is that Llamas has a lot more patience than I do. I would probably never been seen again after the rest of them tore me linb from limb because I would have thrown a fit over some of that smart mouth talk. Maybe it was all just for TV like the man said.?

And that budjet thing? $3000.00??? Does anybody really believe you can do something like that for $3000.00????? I know for certain that I saw way over $100,000.00 worth of tools alone being used not to mention the other stuff used like all that paint. Heck that probably cost $500.00. How much does a new PT cruiser cost?????

The only think kept thinking was what the heck are they doing using that sorry engine lift?????

I bought one last year at a tool sale for $85.00 a lot better than that thing. I think somebody forgot to bring one to the filming and they went out and borrowed that one from the next door shade tree mechanic.

I did enjoy the show though. Entertainment is entertainment ain't it!

You're a better man than I Dungerdin! (Or however you spell that guys name)!

Good show Llamas. Next thing you will be playing 007.

Zane

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llamas

01-24-2003 03:56:01




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 Re: LLAMAS ON MONSTER GARAGE SHOW LAST WEEKEND in reply to ZANE, 01-23-2003 13:47:13  
Lots of stuff there.

Look, guys, it's TV, where nothing is what it quite seems to be. You saw 40-something minutes of film condensed out of 180 hours - it's a 3-camera operation and we worked an honest 60 hours that week.

The team of guys I was working with were some great guys, I tell you what. Every one was highly skilled, every one dedicated to getting the job done. Matt Zabas is a college graduate, Erich Woodall is an AWS certified welder. Mick Gifford is national sales manager for Morbark, and you don't get there by being no fool - he's also well-known in ATPA circles, pulling a 125-horse JD A. Pete Finlan is some sort of a god in the world of Southern California hot-rodding for his amazing pinstriping skills, but he's also a regular family guy with a lovely wife and three great kids.

I admit, the tattoos and the piercings can take you aback, but once you look past them, these are some regular guys. As you could tell by the ways we were razzing on each other. Some of the 'fresh' talk was obviously highlighted to make good TV.

The $3K budget is kind of a staple of the show, and subject to - interpretation. Sure, that's a well-equipped shop. Sure, the budget doesn't include custom one-off wheels at $950 PER WHEEL plus $300 per tire. We could have put some junkyard wheels and tires on there, but if someone wants to throw $6K of free wheels and tires at it - hand me the lug wrench. But the bits we actually put in to make it work - the chipper, the air-suspension system, the tailgate stuff and so forth - well, you saw the budget numbers.

The paint is a joke, of course. House of Kolor paint goes for $500 a quart and up, and of course Tom Prewitt didn't woody, prep and paint that ride in one night - it was a week's work.

The engine lift - there's a story. It got damaged on a previous show - the nutshaker - and was slated to be repaired or replaced. Somebody dropped the ball - as you saw.

Jesse James is a character, all right, and I will say that he's not everyone's cup of tea. But he's a skilled metalworker and fabricator, and he's got whatever it is that he's got that makes his show the top-rated cable offering on Monday evenings. Can't blame a man for sticking with what works.

It's just entertainment, folks, don't read too much into it. It's not meant to represent real life too closely. Just bear in mind everything you didn't see, and the particular difficulties of doing that sort of work for TV. Sure, it's nice that you can stand up and ask for coffee and someone runs to fetch you a cup. But it's slow work when you have to stop what you're doing while they get the cameras set right or change tapes. And in my own shop, I never have to check for photographers before striking an arc.

I'm glad you enjoyed the show, it was meant to entertain.

llater,

llamas

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Ed Gooding (VA)

01-24-2003 05:07:45




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 Re: Re: LLAMAS ON MONSTER GARAGE SHOW LAST WEEKEND in reply to llamas, 01-24-2003 03:56:01  
For those of you who would like to learn more about Jesse James, the Discovery Channel did a show on him alone a while back. You can check out the Discovery Channel website page about it by clicking here. He's a custom bike builder that builds high-dollar, custom one-of's for movie stars, star athletes like Shaq, etc. The guy is incredibly creative and can then do the metal, and other work, to make his dreams come true. He can take a piece of sheet metal and turn it into the wildest gas tank you ever saw. Up until a while ago, he insisted on doing all the metal strengthening and forming work by hand. You can check out some of his creations by clicking here.

The guy is a flake, but his creations sell in the $50-75,000 range, and serious bikers and bike-lovers with fat wallets think the guy is a genius.

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Dave Smith

01-24-2003 04:39:00




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 Re: Re: LLAMAS ON MONSTER GARAGE SHOW LAST WEEKEND in reply to llamas, 01-24-2003 03:56:01  
When will it air again? I had another comitment and did not get to watch it. I have watched Jessie James on TV building bikes and have seen the segment when he went to sturgess. I have also seen one of the bikes he built. He is a artist but way too expensive for my pocket book. The bike I saw was just bought by a fella that bought it for pennies on the dollar. The seller was going through a divorce and sold it cheap. If you can call 5 digit numbers cheap.
Dave <*)))><

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DickTN

01-23-2003 14:10:30




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 Re: LLAMAS ON MONSTER GARAGE SHOW LAST WEEKEND in reply to ZANE, 01-23-2003 13:47:13  
Zane, I believe that you may be referring to Gunga Din, a character in the epic poem by Rudyard Kipling. Gunga Din was an Indian (although not the type of Indian who was at the battle of the Little Big Horn). But what do I know, ahm jes a iggnorunt Tennessee hillbily! DickTN



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BS@ElmaNY

01-23-2003 13:57:58




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 Re: LLAMAS ON MONSTER GARAGE SHOW LAST WEEKEND in reply to ZANE, 01-23-2003 13:47:13  
Hey Zane... could you fill me in on who "Llamas" is? Was that the engineer with the glasses who raises Llamas on his farm? Is he a regular on this forum?

I really like watching Monster Garage, but what's up with all the soap opera crappola on that show??? They spend so much time on who says what, and who gets angry with whom, and who looks at someone else funny, or who spends too much time goofing around, and so on and so forth. All I want to see is the good stuff, not all that soap opera crappola. And that Jesse james clown... what's up with him? Can't they get anyone else to head up the teams than that wide-eyed psycho? He needs professional help. Soon!

Anyone else think the same things about that show? And, when are they going to modify a Ford tractor? That's way, way overdue, don't you think?

Bri

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Bill 52 8n

01-23-2003 22:01:37




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 Re: Re: LLAMAS ON MONSTER GARAGE SHOW LAST WEEKEND in reply to BS@ElmaNY, 01-23-2003 13:57:58  
This just may be the opinion of a 23 yr old college student studying welding and fabrication (ok, thats about all it is ;p). But I respect Jesse James' work. Personally I would love to be able to do what he does, maybe not be as wild as he is, but still. He is an artist at worst; not only to think up what he does, but also the ability to build it is amazing. I would love to spend my days building custom bikes like he does. I do agree with you on the soap opera crap though, it does get pretty deep in that garage.

Zane, 3 grand is what they get to spend on parts. They are given the vehicle, tools, and shop. Some stuff is a "freebie" like the tires/wheels, paint job, body trim, and what ever else they can get in exchange for national advertising exposure by telling everyone where they got the stuff for free.

Bill

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ZANE

01-23-2003 18:55:50




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 Re: Re: LLAMAS ON MONSTER GARAGE SHOW LAST WEEKEND in reply to BS@ElmaNY, 01-23-2003 13:57:58  
Llamas was a regular on this forum until about a year or so ago when he got other things to occupy his time and stopped posting as frequently as he once did. He is a well educated and well read man and is a professional writer too. He helped me a lot when I first invented the ZANE THANG position control for the 9N/2N lift. He bought one of the first ones mostly to inspect I think and didn't really think it would work but when he saw what it did he wrote a brilliant story in an agricultural online magazine and it made my sales soar right off the bat. I still owe him one!
Seems to be a heck of a nice guy and has lots of patents on what I don't know. They said on the show that he designs some sort of data material handling machinery and showed what looked to me like the card sorters that are used in banks and payroll departments etc. That's just my guess though.
I do know that he raises Llamas. Why????? Hope there is more money in them than there was in the Emu raising fad of a few years ago. A couple of my friends lost money on that venture. At one time an Emu egg could cost a grand. Some people have more dollars than sense (cents). :O)

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PaulKC

01-23-2003 15:08:38




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 Re: Re: LLAMAS ON MONSTER GARAGE SHOW LAST WEEKEND in reply to BS@ElmaNY, 01-23-2003 13:57:58  
That soap opera crap must be how they get the womenfolk to watch the show! ;) I agree, there's way too much of it on Monster Garage, and most other good "build stuff" TV shows. The UK version of Junkyard Wars is about the only one I watch these days. My hat off to Llamas, though, he put up with the high school dropouts and managed to get his fifteen minutes!



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