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8N Stuck in reverse

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John

12-20-2000 18:34:56




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Stuck in reverse.

Clutch when pressed down does nothing.

In reverse when trying to start.

HELP!




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Steve IA

12-21-2000 06:36:08




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 Re: 8N Stuck in reverse in reply to John, 12-20-2000 18:34:56  
John, Much better description the second time. Thanks. I'm no transmission expert, but I would suggest you pull the cover off the transmission and see if you can see what the problem is. It would take me a while to figure out what gear was doing what, but you may be able to see what's going on. That's what I'd do. The I&T F0-4 manual has diagrams that might help. Others may come along soon to help here. HTH Steve 8N 169302

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Tim

12-20-2000 19:45:18




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 Re: 8N Stuck in reverse in reply to John, 12-20-2000 18:34:56  
Sounds to me like your clutch disk is froze(rusted) to your pressure plate! They can be a booger to break free. I always jack up 1 rear wheel,rotate it untill i can jamb the shifter in 3rd,start the tractor ,then push it off the jack,a bottle jack works best,but be carefull as this may take more than 1 attempt to break free,and you surely dont want anything in your path!



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John

12-21-2000 05:08:15




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 Re: Re: 8N Stuck in reverse in reply to Tim, 12-20-2000 19:45:18  
I am a bit confused.

The tractor will only start if in nutral.

If I have it in 3rd (I can try your suggestion to jack it up and try to get it in 3rd) my starter cannot be depressed - it must be in nutal for the starter to be pressed.

Mine has always been this way - I cannot start it if in gear...



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Salmoneye

12-21-2000 05:25:47




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 Re: Re: Re: 8N Stuck in reverse in reply to John, 12-21-2000 05:08:15  
We need a bit more info I think.
Did it work the last time you used it?
When you parked it, did you leave it in reverse?
If the answers to these questions are 'yes', then I think Tim has it right that your clutch may be sticking to the flywheel.

It is possible to start the tractor with it in gear, but I will not get into that.
Cut yourself a length of a 2x4 and 'block' the clutch pedal down by propping it under the edge of the hood by the key. Then get a stout friend and each of you get on one of those big rear tires. Rock the begeezes front to back together. This works better in fourth gear and you may be able to get it out of reverse and into fourth by rocking and trying the gear lever at the same time. Once the clutch is free, you should 'block' it down everytime you put her away. This will prevent it from sticking again...

HTH

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John

12-21-2000 05:39:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N Stuck in reverse in reply to Salmoneye, 12-21-2000 05:25:47  
I will try this...

When it happend, I was plowing snow and got stuck a bit after draggin it into a snow bank. I rasied my plow and put it in reverse to get out, and after doing so I wasnt able to get out of reverse. I put it in low throttle and attempted to shift, but of course got nothing but the griding, as if the clutch wasnt engaged. My shifter acts as if in neutral, but I am in reverse. If I engage the clutch, I am still as if in reverse, even my 3pt connection is engaged and spinnin if the lever if left on.

If I have it off (like now) and try to start it, the back wheels spin as I push the starter, even tho the shifter is like nuetral. I can put it in gear (like 1st gear) but I can tell it is not going "all the way" in gear like it should (altho after doing so it goes enough into gear where I can press the starter button) - BUT I cannot get it o shift up into reverse (where it appears to be locked into ).

(I have had a SIMILAR problem in the past where sometimes if I was in reverse and I shift to a forward gear, it would do nothing and stall out unless I shifted BACK to reverse and back out of reverse again then SLOWLY put into gear... )

I dont know that much about tractors or cars in general, but am trying to learn... I have had this baby for 3 years now and have been thru a lot with it - but this winter has been a rough one...

:)

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bj/8N/mt

12-21-2000 08:58:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N Stuck in reverse in reply to John, 12-21-2000 05:39:01  
see the posts below under clutch and make sure your three point lube isn't emulsified and frozen

it is usually the simple stuff that throws you

just a thought



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Salmoneye

12-21-2000 07:01:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N Stuck in reverse in reply to John, 12-21-2000 05:39:01  
I do not believe from this additional info that it is a stuck clutch!

Unfortunately, it sounds as if your problem is a bit deeper than that. Sounds more like the sift lever and the shift forks are not engaging correctly.



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