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8 N back to life (Where to start)

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Jon

01-08-2003 06:36:48




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I've just inherited an 8N from the original owner (in-laws). Even got some photos from the 50's when they bought it. I've been told it may have been rebuilt once maybe twice. It was used for some 40 odd years and then parked in a shed. Been sitting for the last 7-8 years. Any tips on do's and don'ts as I proceed to bring it back to life? Oil bath for the cylinders, all new fluids, etc.
Jon

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Evil Steve

01-08-2003 07:46:18




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 Re: 8 N back to life (Where to start) in reply to Jon, 01-08-2003 06:36:48  
What Sounguy said about NOT trying to turn her over with the starter AND (in order):

1) Pull spark plugs. Add 1 tblspn of either Marvel Mystery Oil or Rislone in each cyinder.

2) Pull valve covers and liberally squirt same all over the valve guides and lifters (good time to adjust valve lash if you have adjustable type (from and earlier rebuild for ex).

3) Remove hexagonal 15/16" nut located to the right of the water pump (as you face the front of tractor). This is where your oil gallery is for your valve/lfters. It has a little spring behind it so don't lose it. Squirt about 1 cup in the hole behind that spring (gotta use an oil squirt can for this). Replace spring/nut.

4) Wait 2-3 days and HAND crank engine Clockwise for several complete revolutions (still w/out plugs in). If it on't easily crank or gets stuck STOP! Something is rusted tight/broken rings/pistons, SOMETHING you have to investigate. You can try some more MMO/Rislone and another coupla day and try a hand crank again, but realize that this engine should turn very easily w/out plugs in it.

5) DO NOT change out fluids until you know you can crank engine by hand. Otherwise, you may have to drain brand new fluid. Okay to drain the old stuff, just replace it if you can hand crank. Fluids = oil, oil bath in the air cleaner, oil filter, hydraulic fluid (Ford 134d), and radiator (50/50 water and antifreeze).

6) Grease all fittings (wheel bearing or marine grease). Put 2 drops oil in distributor and generator oil ports.

7) Check clutch operation (AFTER you determine a free spinning engine): Put in neutral and just roll tractor a coupla feet. Then try it in 2 nd gear. If it rolls freely in neutral and with some resistance in 2nd, then your clutch is probably okay.

8) If all of above check out, replace fluids, put in Autolite 437 plugs, new points properly gapped, new condensor, rotor, cap, check condition of plug wires (they should be copper core wires, not auomotive resistance type), and you may want to replace coil just for peace of mind.

9) Check all electrical connections to ensure they are clean, bright, and tight.

10) Check/replace the THREE fuel screens (one in gas tank, one in the fuel bowl, and one in the gas line connection to your carb.

11) Review proper starting procedures: Fuel valve open 1 1/2 turns (if you have at least 3 gallons or so of gas in tank, otherwiseopen it full), tractor in nuetral, clutch in, throttle NO MORE than 1/2 open, start cranking her over and pull choke after a second of cranking. May take this procedure a few times to get gas to cylindrs OR you could squirt starting fluid in cylinders first.

If you get her started, DO NOT attempt to drive her for at least 1/2 hour of run time. Let that engine get re-broken in. Those rings, valves, lifters, oil pump gears gotta stretch their legs for awhile.

Welcome to our world and good luck!

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Soundguy

01-08-2003 07:10:52




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 Re: 8 N back to life (Where to start) in reply to Jon, 01-08-2003 06:36:48  
Fluid change, check the ignition points and plugs and wires.

Probably will need a new battery.

Might want to try turning the engine over by hand instead of hitting the engine with the starter.

If you are concerned about stuck rings, you could try the wet compression test idea... tablespoon of marvel mystery oil in each cylinder and comp test... also would lube the rings / cylinders.
Check conditions of hoses.
Others will pipe in with more ideas.

Congrats and good luck with the new N.

Soundguy

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