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8N hyd lift cover, I really messed up now.

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JimNC

12-24-2002 10:28:19




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After 2 years of draggin' My feet I have just started seriously working on My N. Took the hyd lift cover to work this morning to take the lift shaft out so I could replace the bushings, there is quite a bit of movement in them. Well guess what happened. Your right busted the cover. (cry, cry, cry) Now I got to go looking around for another one. I have read many times to be careful when doing this. Thought I was being careful, but with a 50 ton prees it is hard to be gentle. Lesson learned, darn this hurts!!!!

Jim

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DaBrow

12-25-2002 11:43:03




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 Re: 8N hyd lift cover, I really messed up now. in reply to JimNC, 12-24-2002 10:28:19  
I have a spare, e-mail if interested...DaBrow



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Larry 8N75381

12-24-2002 17:23:58




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 Re: 8N hyd lift cover, I really messed up now. in reply to JimNC, 12-24-2002 10:28:19  
Jim,

Over the years there have been many threads here on the N-Board about repairing, by welding, of cast iron. Contrairy to most peoples belief, ci CAN be welded, AND can even be welded COLD - that is without "preheating" and the requsite slow cooling - when done PROPERLY! Dave #1 does this when necessary at the job where he works. Read the post linked below from the archives. It tells how it should be done and includes replies, especially the one from Dave about welding at his job.

Not knowing what/where you busted the cover, I can't say right now if I would try to weld it if it was mine. The critical issues would be: A; is the break into a machined surface, if so which surface - the flat area that mates to the rear diff. housing could be "resurfaced" rather easily in a good machine shop (not that different from making a warped engine head flat) B; what are the "working" stresses at the break, since it was broke in a press, that would put much different loads on the cover than it would have when pulling an implement, so I would guess that where the break is would NOT have large "working" stresses that might rebreak under load.

The key to welding is to find some that has done it many times before. Ask around, I'll bet you can find an "old timer" that "knows his stuff" and can weld it almost as good as new. You will want to ask to "see" jobs that he has done, so ask who he has done ci welding for and how to contact them to check on his success.

Hope you find that it can be welded with out much problem. Good luck on the repair and other work on your N.

Regards,
Larry

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simonmeridew

12-24-2002 13:41:23




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 Re: 8N hyd lift cover, I really messed up now. in reply to JimNC, 12-24-2002 10:28:19  
They have been available on eBay recently. I couldn't find the listing quickly but if I come across one I'll post it.

BTW I can't come up with a way for it to break. How did it happen? I've had mine off at least 3 times just unscrewing the bolts and lifting it off. The long actuator rod looks fragile but this isn't what you mean is it?
simonmeridew



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JimNC

12-24-2002 14:01:00




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 Re: Re: 8N hyd lift cover, I really messed up now. in reply to simonmeridew, 12-24-2002 13:41:23  
I had it in a 50 ton hyd. press trying to get the lift arms off the lift shaft so I could replace the two brass bushings. I had the press blocks under the left side of the cover and started pressing in the middle of the shaft from the top. I did not realize it was pressing on the bolt hole on the bottom and well, the rest is a hard lesson learned. And will probably be quite expensive too.



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stever(oh)

12-24-2002 10:33:02




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 Re: 8N hyd lift cover, I really messed up now. in reply to JimNC, 12-24-2002 10:28:19  
Are you talking about the inspection plate? I don't have any parts for you, I just want to be sure not to do the same thing someday...



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naw . . . Dell (WA)

12-24-2002 10:47:24




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 Re: Re: 8N hyd lift cover, I really messed up now. in reply to stever(oh), 12-24-2002 10:33:02  
Stever..... ....not the 6" side dipstick roundplate. The BIG TOP PLATE that yer butt holder is bolted to..... ...Dell



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