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Judy

12-22-2002 21:05:13




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I am rebuilding the 2n tractor my dad bought brand new. Unfortunately, dad passed away a few years ago, so I have no one to ask questions of. I pulled the starter, which seemed to be frozen. I am going to purchase a rebuilt one, but are there any secrets to getting the new one in? Thanks for any help!
Judy




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Dale-PA

12-23-2002 08:16:25




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 Re: 2N Starter installation in reply to Judy , 12-22-2002 21:05:13  
I've done this Waaayyy too many times. The guys have correct advice, but I wouldn't try the grinding on the housing quite yet. Pay heed to this warning if you do not want to run to a shop with starter pieces in your hand. Loosen the 2 bolts evenly to where you can hand turn them off. Once bolts are free from housing, use your left hand to support the bottom and front cap to the starter. DO NOT pull the starter with out supporting the front (where it meets the housing, or a shop will be putting back together). Yes, I learned the hard way, 1st time only. Take Dell's good advice and put 2 nuts on the bolts to hold all components intact. First few times with pulling and installation can be frustrating, but it will come out and go in. Slightly dipping the rear of the starter and giving it an up/down jiggle seems to work best. You do not have to remove the oil cannister, but it will create working room for persons inexperienced at the task. Oh, as for the "froze up", also check your flywheel/ringgear once the starter is out, use a long handled screwdriver in the teeth to turn. Good Luck.

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Evil Steve

12-23-2002 07:38:14




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 Re: 2N Starter installation in reply to Judy , 12-22-2002 21:05:13  
Judy-

What bg, WillyN and Dell say AND...

... I've found that if you approach reinstallation as follows, it gos in easily:

Place the starter about 3-4 " below the mouning hole. Angle the starter upward (bendix pointing up) even with the bottom of the hole. While keeping the bendix pointed to the upper right (as you look at the hole) move the whole assembly in that direction until you feel the bendix clear the flywheel ring gear. When it does then move the assembly level to the hole and bolt it on.

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TimK

12-23-2002 06:59:03




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 Re: 2N Starter installation in reply to Judy , 12-22-2002 21:05:13  
Take a look at the hole in the belhousing that the starter bolts to. If it's perfectly round, you may want to grind it out for some additional clearance when you install the starter. Most of us have done that to our tractors. The hole should be ground out a little at the 2 0'clock position as you look at it from the front. When you put the starter back in, the starter will cover the exra hole size. My $.02

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Dave 2N

12-23-2002 05:45:54




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 Re: 2N Starter installation in reply to Judy , 12-22-2002 21:05:13  
Judy-
"Been there-done that" with my 2N so I am familiar with the issues. However, Dell has this one "nailed down solid" so I won't add anything other than to say that you should follow Dell's instuctions to the letter. Good luck.



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Dell (WA)

12-23-2002 00:15:40




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 Re: 2N Starter installation in reply to Judy , 12-22-2002 21:05:13  
Judy..... ..... what bg and Willie said..... ..and.....
CAUTION: don't let the long bolts/screws of the starter come all the way out 'cuz yer starter will fall apart and the brushes can be a real PIA to put back in their holders (its a trade secret but I use wooden toothpicks). I use some 5/15 NC (coarse thread) nuts to keep the starter from falling apart as I wiggle it around past the flywheel ring gear.

The starter Bendix drive screw has to be squeekie clean, no oil or greese. Made to operate with no lubrication.

Installation is a reverse of the removal. Except..... .remember the 6 volt mantra: "keep'em clean, bright, and tight". And don't be fer using enny of them thar wimpy 12 volt battery cables. Use 'airy chested 1/0 (thick as yer thumb) 6 volt battery cables.

And I recommend having your starter rebuild by a real automobile electric shop, (look in yellow pages) its cheaper. Then get a new CLUTCH type starter drive, much better than the old Bendix drive.

If you have any questions, please ask, we care..... ...Dell

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Willy-N

12-22-2002 22:17:13




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 Re: 2N Starter installation in reply to Judy , 12-22-2002 21:05:13  
Just reverse what bg said to put it back in. They will go back in but are a tight fit and only when you have it just right do they go in. Mark H.



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bg

12-22-2002 21:34:26




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 Re: 2N Starter installation in reply to Judy , 12-22-2002 21:05:13  
remove the oil filter canister that's in front of it. Then you have to hold your mouth right, utter a few incantations, twist, shake, pull and finagle the thing out.



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