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12 volt conversion questions

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Fessman

10-14-2002 19:19:10




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Well it seems that my time has come to ask the 12 volt questions. I just replaced the burnt out alternator with a new three wire alternator (same as previous). I should have the GM 10SI, in other words, the parts guy had some difficulty. I traced the wires to get a better understanding of how it was done. It appears that the conversion was done with a oil pressure switch, which excites the #1 connection on the alternator. I did not see any resistors, or bulbs in line to the alternator. But it should be noted that there is a lot of electrical tape and if resistors are slim enough one could be wrapped up. My question is should I leave it alone??? Is it correct??? Could that be the reason why the previous alternator burned out???
note: the tractor is a NAA

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hey, thats #7 . . . Dell (WA)

10-14-2002 19:55:30




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 Re: 12 volt conversion questions in reply to Fessman, 10-14-2002 19:19:10  
Fessman..... ...congratts on #7. Now I know of 7 different ways to convert to 12 volts and they all work.

With the 3-wire Delco SI-10 or whatever their calling it, the alternator needs a momentarary shot of 12 volts to excite the alternator windings so it starts outputting at LOW RPM's. BUT because of the design of the alternators internal voltage regulator, it feed 12 volts back out to the ignition switch (which gave its innital 12 volt jump) which also is connected to the ignition coil. Therefore, if you don't figger out away to stop that feedback to the ignition coil, you'll NEVER be able to stop your engine.

SOOoo.... with your oilpressure diss-connect switch, you get the alternator the kickstart excite thru P-1, and with engine running, the oil pressure disconnects the alternator from the ignition coil path and you are then able to turn your engine off.

So bottom line, your oilpressure disconnect switch is acting as a blind idiot light or resistor or other decoupling device. Go with what was working before..... ..... .Dell

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Claus

10-15-2002 05:07:00




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 Re: Re: 12 volt conversion questions in reply to hey, thats #7 . . . Dell (WA), 10-14-2002 19:55:30  
Bad idea...Now when you shut the engine off and the oil pressure drops you get exite voltage? Or do you get exite voltage with oil pressure? In either case it is a bad idea...
Happy Motoring
Claus



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Fessman

10-14-2002 20:12:22




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 Re: Re: 12 volt conversion questions in reply to hey, thats #7 . . . Dell (WA), 10-14-2002 19:55:30  
Dell,

So it works, but it is one of the least attractive conversions. I know, I know, if it ain't broke.... I may change it to one of the more attractive conversions anyhow. Thanks for the reply.

Fessman



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