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MrLadd

09-02-2002 17:05:46




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maybe someone can help... my battery keeps slowly draining, i have checked circuts and the only thing im noticing, is when the key is on, i see very small sparks on one side of the resistor occasionaly. the resistor looks good, no apparent damage.
(one side of the resistor connects the top coil wire ) the ( other side connects the key switch ) can this lead to a drained battery and my drained love for the 8N ???

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jr burger

09-02-2002 21:51:04




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 Re: 48 Ford8N electrical nightmare in reply to MrLadd, 09-02-2002 17:05:46  
put a kill switch between pos on battery then connect normal ground wire to other side of switch $10 in parts . may be klugy but will save your batterys


see ya



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well . . . Dell (WA)

09-02-2002 17:19:22




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 Re: 48 Ford8N electrical nightmare in reply to MrLadd, 09-02-2002 17:05:46  
Mr Ladd..... ....while you shouldn't be seeing sparks at your ballast resistor while the ignition is "ON", you shouldn't see any sparkies with the ignition switch "OFF" eather. Which is what you describe.

I'd recommend replacing your ballast resistor before you write asking why your tractor won't run.

There's a lotta reasons why your battery is slowly discharging but a bad ballast resistor isn't one of them..... ...Dell

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mrladd

09-02-2002 17:52:16




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 Re: Re: 48 Ford8N electrical nightmare in reply to well . . . Dell (WA), 09-02-2002 17:19:22  
Well..... Dell... tell me sparky... what is causing the sparks at the resistor ?? the resistor is new so if the resistor is'nt draining the battery... than what is ?



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bg

09-02-2002 20:20:01




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 Re: Re: Re: 48 Ford8N electrical nightmare in reply to mrladd, 09-02-2002 17:52:16  
Maybe your voltage regulator's cut-out is malfunctioning, allowing the battery to drain back through the generator.



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Dell (WA)

09-02-2002 18:57:26




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 Re: Re: Re: 48 Ford8N electrical nightmare in reply to mrladd, 09-02-2002 17:52:16  
Mr. Ladd..... .....sparks are usually caused by loose connections and vibration. Some connections are loose rivets, some loose screws. Since you don't complain of "non-running", that implies that the infamous ballast resistor is continuous and not making intermittant contact which could also show up as sparks. Sometimes weed dust can cause sparks.

Remember the 6 volt mantra: "Keep'em clean, bright, and tight".

If I had to guess as to what was draining your battery, I'd guess at a "dirty battery". If your generator was overcharging your battery, you will boil out some of your battery acid, which when dried, will actually leak electrons from negative to positive posts of the battery.

Carefully wash the top of your battery, sometimes Arm & Hammer baking soda in water is good to neutralize the battery acid. Just don't let it get into the round battery water caps, 'cuz that'll kill yer chemicals inside the battery..... ..... .Dell

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You need this buddy

09-02-2002 19:16:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 48 Ford8N electrical nightmare in reply to Dell (WA), 09-02-2002 18:57:26  
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Dell, you need to post this button so us simple minded folks can relate to whats ya say'n to us !

Just right click on the button and then click properties and then highlight the address and save it, then just puts that there address in the "Optional Image URL" box, and ka-bang, learning made fun by Dell !

Grin

later,dave

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dan

09-03-2002 11:31:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 48 Ford8N electrical nightmare in reply to You need this buddy, 09-02-2002 19:16:53  
I have a ford 8N tractor. I was mowing with a brush hog. The tractor in the past would back fire every so often and would be fine again. It started very easy that morning. 1 pull of a returnable choke, then 1 more a couple of times would keep it running. The tractor stopped as though I had turned off the ignition. It has spark,I added gas directly to the cylinders, it was rebuilt about 3 years ago. It will not fire up even with gas added. Now I am wondering if it is getting to much gas. I have found gas after choking the carberator in the hose leading to the oil bath air intake. I forgot to turn on the gas line after adding gas directly into the cylinders. At that point I think it may have fired a couple of times. The spark looks weak put I have been told the 6v is that way. After the engine stopped the mower coasted for a few minutes, so the mower had no affect on the engine stopping. Timing would be the next step if no help can be found here.

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so Dan are you having troubles?

09-03-2002 12:50:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 48 Ford8N electrical nightmare in reply to dan, 09-03-2002 11:31:47  
Dan..... If you're having troubles and are asking for help, be BRAVE and start a new thread. It don't cost nuttin more..... ..respectfully, Dell



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dan

09-03-2002 11:31:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 48 Ford8N electrical nightmare in reply to You need this buddy, 09-02-2002 19:16:53  
I have a ford 8N tractor. I was mowing with a brush hog. The tractor in the past would back fire every so often and would be fine again. It started very easy that morning. 1 pull of a returnable choke, then 1 more a couple of times would keep it running. The tractor stopped as though I had turned off the ignition. It has spark,I added gas directly to the cylinders, it was rebuilt about 3 years ago. It will not fire up even with gas added. Now I am wondering if it is getting to much gas. I have found gas after choking the carberator in the hose leading to the oil bath air intake. I forgot to turn on the gas line after adding gas directly into the cylinders. At that point I think it may have fired a couple of times. The spark looks weak put I have been told the 6v is that way. After the engine stopped the mower coasted for a few minutes, so the mower had no affect on the engine stopping. Timing would be the next step if no help can be found here.

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09-03-2002 11:31:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 48 Ford8N electrical nightmare in reply to You need this buddy, 09-02-2002 19:16:53  
I have a ford 8N tractor. I was mowing with a brush hog. The tractor in the past would back fire every so often and would be fine again. It started very easy that morning. 1 pull of a returnable choke, then 1 more a couple of times would keep it running. The tractor stopped as though I had turned off the ignition. It has spark,I added gas directly to the cylinders, it was rebuilt about 3 years ago. It will not fire up even with gas added. Now I am wondering if it is getting to much gas. I have found gas after choking the carberator in the hose leading to the oil bath air intake. I forgot to turn on the gas line after adding gas directly into the cylinders. At that point I think it may have fired a couple of times. The spark looks weak put I have been told the 6v is that way. After the engine stopped the mower coasted for a few minutes, so the mower had no affect on the engine stopping. Timing would be the next step if no help can be found here.

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