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Tim Dunford

07-31-2002 18:24:36




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8N Fresh Rebuild Question

On a fresh rebuild should you use non-detergent or detergent oil going forward? I understand on an old or �new to you� why you would use non-detergent as I have�

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MATT (BC)

07-31-2002 22:36:23




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 Re: 8N Fresh Rebuild Question in reply to Tim Dunford, 07-31-2002 18:24:36  
A friend of my fathers used detergent and non-detergent oil in his 8N tractor. He used 30W detergent oil in the summer when using the tractor and before parking it for winter he changed the oil to 30W non-detergent and ran the engine for half an hour before shutting it down for the long months. His reasoning was when the tractor is not used during the several months of winter, the non-detergent oil doesn't have all those additives (acids, etc which reduces the life of the oil)but non-detergent oil is near to 100% pure oil which is more stable and clings to the engine parts much better than the detergent oil. Then just before using the tractor in spring he changed back to detergent oil.

Apparently he never had to rebuild the engine for the 37 years he owned it since day one.

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Dave Smith

07-31-2002 18:58:33




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 Re: 8N Fresh Rebuild Question in reply to Tim Dunford, 07-31-2002 18:24:36  
Tim, I used Valvoiline 30W detergent for the first 50 hours. Then I switched to Penzoil 15-40 HD that Ford recomends for year round use in my other tractors. I get it from the New Holland dealer.
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Dave Smith, PS

07-31-2002 19:03:09




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 Re: Re: 8N Fresh Rebuild Question in reply to Dave Smith, 07-31-2002 18:58:33  
If you plan to lay the tractor up for a extended period such as over winter. Get it good and hot then change the oil before lay up. That way you are not storing with all that dirt and acids in it.
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Bob /Ont.

07-31-2002 21:19:52




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 Re: Re: Re: 8N Fresh Rebuild Question in reply to Dave Smith, PS, 07-31-2002 19:03:09  
Hey Dave how you doing? Leaving the place in your hands again for a while. Things are well stocked and should be okay. Did you get to the windmill yet?
Later Bob



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Dell (WA)

07-31-2002 18:48:51




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 Re: 8N Fresh Rebuild Question in reply to Tim Dunford, 07-31-2002 18:24:36  
Tim..... ....there really is NO REASON to use non-detergent oil in any engine anymore, wheather newly built or high milage. Modern detergent oil has special additives that hold in suspension, all those nastys that used to settle out and line your oilpan. Just change your oil filter more often and keep your oil hot when you change. It flushes particals better.

I have a 1969 BMW 2002 with 385K and you can eat off the OHC valve cover, its that clean. I have also worked on BMW's that the valve cover lookes like a black charcoal broiler. He insisted we use his caster bean oil that was popular for Mercedies Benze's, Auto-Union's, Porches, Ferrari, Buggatti, Masseratti Formula 1 race cars. I use Valvoline 10-40..... .....Dell

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raytasch

07-31-2002 18:29:19




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 Re: 8N Fresh Rebuild Question in reply to Tim Dunford, 07-31-2002 18:24:36  
A fresh rebuild should mean the engine is clean inside. Detergent oil will keep dirt particles in suspension and the filter will trap some of those particles where they can be removed on a timely basis.
ray



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