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(Photo) Limiter Chain On Brush Hog

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Gary (MO)

07-23-2002 01:44:51




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Just finished putting a new King Kutter brush hog on the N. Lift arm pins on the mower are so high that I needed another place to tie limiter chain on. Used existing holes in lower front of mower. Welded 3/8 x 2 tabs with 5/8" hole on the end of 3/8" chains. One short, one long with grab hook for adjustment. Tied slack tail of chain back so it couldn't come unhooked when I raise it. Hook is almost hidden behind black brace in center of photo.

See also chain top link.

Both worked good. Wish I had something else to mow.

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Darrel(ok)

07-24-2002 00:19:40




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 Re: (Photo) Limiter Chain On Brush Hog in reply to Gary (MO), 07-23-2002 01:44:51  
I use the limiter chains as discribed by Steve. They work great.

As for the chain top link, that's all I use with my mower. A while back, I was using a solid top link and attemped to make a shortcut across a small ravine. As the tractor went up one side of the ravine, the wheel on the mower hit the ground on the back side of the ravine and the mower rode up and the pto shaft bottomed out against the mower deck,"mower not running", I almost couldn't back out.

Shortly after that I started to use a chain about four times bigger than yours. It has a pear shaped ring on one end and a hook on the other. I hook the small end of the ring to the middle hole on the toplink bracket on the tractor and then run the chain around the toplink pin on the mower and then about halfway back to the tractor. I can adjust the length by moving the hook.

I mow some uneven ground and let the wheel on the mower ride on the ground. This lets the mower follow the contour of the ground independent of the tractor. I run the chain a couple of links looser than level which lets the mower tilt downward slightly in back on uneven ground and I get a more even cut.

When I'm ready to transport the mower, I move the hook and take the slack out of the chain which lets the mower raise up level. I guess I could invent some type of telescoping toplink which would let the mower tilt up a certain amount before bottoming out. This would still let the mower follow the contour of the ground and still be safe. What do you think about that concept everyone?

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Steve W

07-23-2002 10:57:53




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 Re: (Photo) Limiter Chain On Brush Hog in reply to Gary (MO), 07-23-2002 01:44:51  
That is a nice hookup on the deck, but that toplink attachment is what we call around here "farmerized". Not to be disrespectful to your average farmer, but it seems it's a lot about function, without a lot of safety mixed in.

I know, I know, not every farmer gets caught in the PTO, gets run through the bailer, get's caught in the running Silo unloader, or flips the tractor on himself, it just seems that way from reading the paper.

They make a set of limiter chains with a keyhole setup on top, which allows you to adjust the chain length one link at a time. I am sure Stevens or TSC has them. You also need a longer toplink pin, as the "keyholes" go on the outside of the link attachment point. I personally have a pair on the scrap pile...ever since I got a Zane Thang, I just don't use them. With a "Zane Thang", you just..... ."SET IT and FORGET IT".

But you do need a toplink. Having a Toplink turns your bushhog into a wheelie bar. Without it, there is nothing stopping your tractor from flipping over on you.....get it on there.

Good Luck
Steve

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Tom-Pa

07-23-2002 10:11:43




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 Re: (Photo) Limiter Chain On Brush Hog in reply to Gary (MO), 07-23-2002 01:44:51  
The height of the pins is ok. I also have a KK. But I did put the limiter chains to the same lower bolt. The setup you have does not let you adjust the deck height. This you should be able to do for different scenarios...Just hoggin' a field is one thing, but if clipping a pasture you want it higher. You want to be able to adjust it link by link to get your wanted height. In the custom brush hoggin' I do, I hae about 6 different heights that I use...

Now about your chain toplink, get RID of it, Safety hazard is main thing, like mentioned, it can rotate and hit you where the solid toplink limits its rotation. Good luck
Tom-Pa

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Gary (MO)

07-23-2002 18:47:23




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 Re: Re: (Photo) Limiter Chain On Brush Hog in reply to Tom-Pa, 07-23-2002 10:11:43  
The height is adjustable link by link. The chain hook is partially hidden in the middle of the photo.



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Joe Ferguson

07-23-2002 09:46:31




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 Re: (Photo) Limiter Chain On Brush Hog in reply to Gary (MO), 07-23-2002 01:44:51  
Hi Gary

Please put a real solid top link

I lost one of my best friends few years ago
he has a chain in place of toplink
the mower hits a stump the rear of the mower lifts
caused PTO shaft to break and hit him in the back
when still turing by the mower inertia.

Safety first

Joe Ferguson



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Phil (VA)

07-23-2002 08:16:09




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 Re: (Photo) Limiter Chain On Brush Hog in reply to Gary (MO), 07-23-2002 01:44:51  
Using a chain as a top link, if you hit the front of the mower hard on an obstacle like a stump, the mower can rotate on the lift arms (fast) and the top of the mower can hit the operator! Don't do it.



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JES

07-23-2002 07:33:55




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 Re: (Photo) Limiter Chain On Brush Hog in reply to Gary (MO), 07-23-2002 01:44:51  
Your a man after my own heart. I love looking at ingenuious ideas. There are some dog eared chain holders/adjusters (cheap) at TSC which can be used with a longer top link pin and would work well with the chain/tab setup you made. They would allow you to use a standard solid top link. A soild top link would give you the ability to adjust the pitch of the mower. Also, I would think the jerking around from using a chain as a top link would be putting a lot of unnecessary stress on the top link connector. I had the same prob with setting up my Dad's new KK mower (lift pins too high). I just switched the bolt down below for the pin up above. You probably saved a good bit of money making your own welded chain tabs.

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ED-IL

07-23-2002 07:15:57




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 Re: (Photo) Limiter Chain On Brush Hog in reply to Gary (MO), 07-23-2002 01:44:51  
Question - if the lift pins are too high, couldn't you mount them in the lower holes where the limiter chain brackets are bolted right now and vice versa?



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Upper Peninsula, Mi.

07-23-2002 07:15:20




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 Re: (Photo) Limiter Chain On Brush Hog in reply to Gary (MO), 07-23-2002 01:44:51  
Hi Gary. You and I have the same set up with the same limiter chain set up. Mine fit perfectly with plenty of chain links to spare. I fastened the large metal ends on the chains at the top link on the tractor. The other ends of the chains are fastened on the lift pins on the King Kutter.(These ends have a metal end with holes to fit the pins) The adjustments are made at the top end of the chains. 16 chain links from the lift pins on the King Kutter to the top link work well for me. I also use a standard top link, not chains.I'm not sure why I feel that looking at your picture showing chains in place of a top link, that it is not the safest way to go, but then again maybe it is. I prefer a fixed, solid top link, but your using the system and maybe you found advantages in the flexible chain top link.I hope I've explained my system adequately. I've had the King Kutter for 3 years and use it for about 40-50 hours each year. Except for sharpening the blades it's working great. Be careful and have fun. Ron

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Chris9n in CT

07-23-2002 05:21:45




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 Re: (Photo) Limiter Chain On Brush Hog in reply to Gary (MO), 07-23-2002 01:44:51  
Looks good, But I agree about not using chain as a top link. Have you tried using a Zane Thang yet. I bought one and it works so well I bought another for my friend. I don't see how people could use these tractors to thier fullest without one. you will not regret a penny of the 80.00 if you buy one.

Chris



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Salmoneye

07-23-2002 04:15:41




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 Re: (Photo) Limiter Chain On Brush Hog in reply to Gary (MO), 07-23-2002 01:44:51  
My KK Hog has the same problem with the pins being so high, so I appreciate the insight into how you took care of the problem.
However...I would not use a chain for a toplink.
I have been told that it is not a good idea...



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