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600/Jubilee Hydraulics question...

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John C. (IN)

06-03-2002 07:09:54




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A friend of mine I visited this weekend has a question for the board.
He has a 600 without live PTO. He calls it a 600/Jubilee, I did not see it as it's on another farm. They were running a brush cutter with it one day last fall with fine results, then shut it down and broke for lunch. When the tractor was started after lunch, the hydraulics wouldn't work. Prior to this, at times, the tractor needed to run awhile before the hydraulics would operate. The PTO shaft works, but the lift does not. Have you any suggestions on where I can tell him to start looking to solve this problem? Thanks in advance, John C. (IN)

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Fessman

06-03-2002 18:33:24




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 Re: 600/Jubilee Hydraulics question... in reply to John C. (IN), 06-03-2002 07:09:54  
Currently I am trying to repair a similar problem with a Jubilee. The problem is once the tractor sits overnight it seems to loose it's prime. I am replacing a gasket on the pump, and the o-rings on the tubes. Then I will replace all the fluid in the resevour.
Good luck, and post back what the solution was.
Fessman



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Jim.UT

06-03-2002 15:38:00




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 Re: 600/Jubilee Hydraulics question... in reply to John C. (IN), 06-03-2002 07:09:54  
On the Jubilee and the later 600, the hydraulic pump is driven off the engine rather than off the pto like the 8N. Therefore, pto function will have nothing to do with lift function. You may have a pump problem. The early models came with a vane pump that was a problem child for most people. The later ones have a piston pump....and many of the early ones got converted to a piston pump when the vane pump failed.

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Walt Mo

06-03-2002 09:24:18




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 Re: 600/Jubilee Hydraulics question... in reply to John C. (IN), 06-03-2002 07:09:54  
Make sure your draft control lever is in the right
position. Also on my 1953 jubilee when the position lever is in the up position and the draft control lever in the down position I can push the draft control lever farther down and it will raise the the lift arms.



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Phil (VA)

06-03-2002 08:48:17




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 Re: 600/Jubilee Hydraulics question... in reply to John C. (IN), 06-03-2002 07:09:54  
If hydraulics don't raise at all, or don't raise as far as they should, it could be the cam follower pin. You have to remove the lift cover, secure it upright (in vise, etc.) and using something behind to steady it, drift the pin out and replace it. Sometimes you can just turn it around and use the old one if no one has done that before. I'm assuming your friend has kept good fluid in the reservior, etc. Of course it could be the pump and lots of other things, but this is something prone to go bad and not too hard to fix although the pin can be tough to punch out. Read the manual first.

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