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Greg VT

05-08-2002 10:17:10

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As fussy about it's gas as mine? Last fall I gave my Jube a complete tune-up and filled the tank anticipating all the snow plowing I was going to have to do. Had her running pretty good. Well old man winter pretty much took a vacation in this part of the country so I never did use the Jube to plow. Started it up and drove her around a little every week or so just to let her know I didn't forget about her. The other day she started up just fine, idled good but when I put the throttle to her she just wanted to spit, sputter and die. Checked all the ignition stuff, no problems there. Before I started digging into the fuel line and carb I pumped out most of the remaining six month old gas and filled her with fresh. Started right up, ran a little rough for a couple minutes till it started getting the fresh gas then varrroooom, good as new. Are they all this fussy or is mine "special".

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Barnstormer

05-08-2002 19:09:53

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Re: Is your tractor... in reply to Greg VT, 05-08-2002 10:17:10

I used to use my tractors fuel tanks as storage for cheap fuel. Now I use Stabil in everything in storage more than 30 days. I also now use a lead substitute. May be overkill but I have other things to do besides track down starting and running problems, they come in many forms.

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Jeff in Pa.

05-08-2002 16:43:02

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Re: Is your tractor... in reply to Greg VT, 05-08-2002 10:17:10

I consider my 50 8n a "flexible fueler". She runs good on anything form Aqua Velva to Av. gas. Never had a problem yet, just strain it through the wifes pantyhose, ssshhh she'll never know ;)

KEEP IT SHINY SIDE UP!!

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duey in MN

05-08-2002 15:34:21

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Re: Is your tractor... in reply to Greg VT, 05-08-2002 10:17:10

My '46 2N is like Chuck's & Salmoneye's ...anything goes... .guess I've been fortunate....

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bj/8n/mt

05-08-2002 14:09:06

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Re: Is your tractor... in reply to Greg VT, 05-08-2002 10:17:10

Spring and fall seem to be the times of the year when gas condensation turns into trouble in cold climates. Half a bottle of Heet or some other gas dryer in a tank of gas usually clears it up.

YOur mileage may vary

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Rob

05-08-2002 13:09:56

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Re: Is your tractor... in reply to Greg VT, 05-08-2002 10:17:10

Greg you say you started her up every week or so. If you didn't run her long enough to boil out all the condensation then you may have been contributing to a problem.
The engine has to be run at full operation temperature for some period of time before you over come the downside of warming up the engine. The downside seems to be mostly condensation. Cars that are used mostly for trips under 10 miles or a lot of stop-and-go driving require an oil change every 3,000 miles otherwise 7,500 mile intervals are fine. Maybe you should either not run the N every week or give her a good workout when you do. When the nights are cold you should keep the gas tank topped off or keep drygas in there. It's a bad deal to have a 1/4 tank of gas warming up in the day and cooling off each night because you're certain to get a lot of condensate in there. Either fill the tank or empty it, either way ok.

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Salmoneye

05-08-2002 12:55:57

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Re: Is your tractor... in reply to Greg VT, 05-08-2002 10:17:10

Yours is special.
I have used everything from ancient coleman fuel to old 2-cycle mix in mine.
2 months ago my Dad said he needed to get rid of some gas that he had in his boat tanks for the last three years.
I got nearly 20 gallons from him and have burned through all that with no trouble...

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chuck

05-08-2002 11:57:41

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Re: Is your tractor... in reply to Greg VT, 05-08-2002 10:17:10

Greg, I use my 52 8N to burn up any old gas I find around the place. With the low compression it doesn't seem to mind anything that smells remotely like gas.

chuck
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John,PA

05-08-2002 11:07:11

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Re: Is your tractor... in reply to Greg VT, 05-08-2002 10:17:10

If your tractor sets for 6 months, like mine does, I would think that if the fuel tank is not full, perhaps moisture in the air could collect.
Since auto gas is not color coded, we always add lead to our tractor gas which will change the color of the gas to a rosey red color. If there is water in the fuel, it will show up easier in the gascolator. So probably moisture was your problem.

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Tom A

05-08-2002 11:01:24

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Re: Is your tractor... in reply to Greg VT, 05-08-2002 10:17:10

Mine isn't, and I put the cheapest stuff I can find in it. Father-in-law unloaded an old can of gas on me (he got it for his mower, picked it up at a yard sale and had it a couple of years himself). I put that in and she still ran fine.

Probably shouldn't admit this, but the only time I've had anything similar happen was when I quit watching the sediment bowl. It finally filled up with crud and condensed water, and the water flowed to the carb and caused her to run *really* bad. Once I emptied the bowl out it ran fine.

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ED-IL

05-08-2002 10:58:41

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Re: Is your tractor... in reply to Greg VT, 05-08-2002 10:17:10

I have a 1946 2N, so I don't know if this will apply to you or not. Last year while plowing she started to run rough. I assumed it was running out of gas, so I sped her back to the garage, idled her down and was about to turn the key off, when I noticed she was idling nicely. So I opened the throttle and she ran like cr@p. Back to idle and she was fine.

On the sugestion of this board, I opened up the distributor and dried it with a hair dryer. then she ran fine at idle and throttle.

I don't know if it is possible on the jubilee or not, but is it possible there was a little condensation in your distributor that dried out while you were switching gas?

Just a thought. Glad you got her working.

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53 NAA does it too

05-08-2002 10:43:08

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Re: Is your tractor... in reply to Greg VT, 05-08-2002 10:17:10

I had a similar experience on a 53 NAA. I know they make "Winter" and "Summer" blends of gas. (Many people will disagree, but go to ExxonMobil.com and they 'splain about it) The Winter blend is more volitile and Summer is less volitile (but same octane). So I have had a situation where the summer gas won't burn quite as well in the winter as gas made for colder weather. The other way around is usually no problem, but it can be more prone to vapor lock on hot days. (I had my NAA do that, too).

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MikeC

05-08-2002 10:19:33

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Re: Is your tractor... in reply to Greg VT, 05-08-2002 10:17:10

Did you use any sort of fuel stabilizer for the 6 month storage?

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Greg VT

05-08-2002 10:32:02

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Re: Re: Is your tractor... in reply to MikeC, 05-08-2002 10:19:33

I don't remember.if I did or not. I did my tune up at the same time I put my summer machines to bed so I had the stabilizer handy... But I was getting the Jube ready for a winter of work not storage. Even if I didn't I've never owned an engine that wouldn't run at least half way decent on 6 month old gas. I've never owned a 50 year old engine though so I'm wonderin' if this is typical.

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