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2N won't start

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tom

04-16-2002 19:12:39




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Any suggestions? Apparently I left the key on after using my tractor last week. Battery was deader than a doorknob. Anyway, after I charged it up with F-250 w/two batteries, it spun over and over to no avail. The thing was changed to a l2 volt system before I got it. Could the cellanoid be down? Not sure if it was getting spark or not. Put screwdriver in plug wire and held to motor, no spark, but not too knowledgeable about this anyway!! May have flooded possibly? It has never failed to start since I've had it. Did leaving the key on burn something else out? not much there! HELP need to plow watermelon patch. Tbredpepper

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Johnny

04-17-2002 11:40:10




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 Re: 2N won't start in reply to tom, 04-16-2002 19:12:39  
We must have the same tractor, a 2N someone previous converted to 12V. I did the EXACT same thing last summer. Replaced points, rotor, condensor, etc to no avail. Ended up it fried the coil. I had a 6V coil. Bought a 12V through Don B at Just 8N's. Only place I know of that carries a 12V front mount coil. No problems since.



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ED-IL

04-17-2002 09:49:57




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 Re: 2N won't start in reply to tom, 04-16-2002 19:12:39  
Tom - replacing points is no big deal - new set of points is cheap - I just got a master-tune-up kit at TSC that had points, rotor, distr. cap, condensor, and sparkplugs for 29 bucks - well worth the money.

Start by removing the coil (large black square on top of the distributor) - it is held to the distributor with a bailer handle that you pry forward. The coil can then be placed on top of the fan belt. The the dist. cap is held on by two clips, one each side. Undo the clips and let the cap hang from the spark plug wires. Then remove the rotor by slipping it forward. Remember which way it is pointing! Then remove the distributor by loosening the two bolts that hold it to the block.

Now take it to a good light source and examine. If the points are black, it is time for a new set. Most Ag/Farm stores have them, even some auto parts stores. If they look good, shiney, clean, then replace the distributor, rotor, cap, and coil and try taking a voltage reading at the top of the coil; with points open, you should get 12 volts or 6 volts, depending on your conversion. Voltage should be less with points closed - that may take turning the engine or rocking it by hand with it in gear. These voltage readings will be necessary in determining your 12 volt conversion.

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Scott

04-17-2002 00:15:56




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 Re: 2N won't start in reply to tom, 04-16-2002 19:12:39  
Had the EXACT same thing happen to me last month on my 2N. Turned out the points must have been closed and burned. I replaced them and it is running great again.

Good luck.



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Dell (WA)

04-16-2002 23:56:11




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 Re: 2N won't start in reply to tom, 04-16-2002 19:12:39  
Tbredpepper..... ...what Fast Ed said..... 99% chance you melted your frontmount ignition coil. Unfortunately, there are 2 types of frontmount ignition coils out there, OEM 6 volt and modern 12. Both require different external resistors. With the information you've provided, I can't even guess which ignition coil.

2N's don't have starter solenoids..... ....Dell



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ED-IL

04-16-2002 20:11:42




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 Re: 2N won't start in reply to tom, 04-16-2002 19:12:39  
leaving the key on with points closed sometimes burns up points...

just a sugestion



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ED-IL

04-16-2002 20:18:11




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 Re: Re: 2N won't start in reply to ED-IL, 04-16-2002 20:11:42  
ALso, I don't think the 2N has a solenoid - maybe the coil is shot. Now the hard part is analyzing your 12 volt conversion since, depending on how its done, the parts aren't always the same.

Either way, pull one spark plug out, and leaving it connected, lay it on the engine head. Crank the engine with the key on and look for a bright blue spark. If you don't see blue, but kind of yellow, the problem is in the distributor/coil.

If the spark is a nice bright blue, then start tinkering with the fuel system.

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Fast Ed Ohio

04-16-2002 22:44:58




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 Re: Re: Re: 2N won't start in reply to ED-IL, 04-16-2002 20:18:11  
I would say your coil gave up the ghost , points also could have suffered .



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