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Grant

11-06-2000 18:39:09




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Next spring I plan to build a riding arena 100X200 feet. The land is flat and nice soft old creek bed with very deep topsoil so it is possibly to move the dirt with box scraper, blade etc. My questions are:
1. Is is it reasonable to think that my 8N can move the amount of earth possible to crown the arena and slope it about 4 inches to each side?
2. My plan is to have the top layer of the arena sand. Is it necessary to have an underlayer of gravel? I'm assuming the 8N can adequately spread the gravel, if necessary, and sand when layed out by the truck.
3. Do I need a dozer or something similar to compact the ground before laying gravel/sand?
4. Is it cost effective to rent a dozer for the above or just hire it?
Thanks for any help to this long post.

Grant

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11-07-2000 11:26:52




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 Re: 8N capacity for earthmoving in reply to Grant, 11-06-2000 18:39:09  
Grant,

Here is a post I made this spring of my 8N moving dirt.

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Brad

11-07-2000 06:16:12




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 Re: 8N capacity for earthmoving in reply to Grant, 11-06-2000 18:39:09  
Semi-dry clay dumped out of a truck can be a problem for an 8N. I kept high centering on the big lumps and went nuts dragging them around the lot trying to get them to break up. A friend of mine came by to watch and finally used his 10,000# mobile home toter to break up the big lumps and get them down to a size a 2000 and some odd pound 8N can handle. That and wet clay ( sticks in the box blade) are the only problems I've had.

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Jerry (NH)

11-07-2000 03:44:59




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 Re: 8N capacity for earthmoving in reply to Grant, 11-06-2000 18:39:09  
I am in the processing of building a riding ring here in NH on a hillside of clay, rocks, boulders. After clearing the trees and stumps I rented a D5C dozer for a day ($350/day + $60 delivery) and hacked out a fairly level spot from the hillside where the high side was about 8 feet higher than the low side over 100 feet.

I'll be using my 8N to finish leveling it up and then we're bringing in the cheapest sand we can find which we expect will disappear into the clay. We'll then repeat as necessary and hopefully end up with a fairly reasonable surface.

I've got a backblade and 3-pt scoop for my 8N. For finishing this project up I'm wishing I also had a box blade for moving dirt better and a landscape rake to ease the agony of all these damn rocks. And while I'm dreaming, maybe another N too.

I don't think I'd use the gravel, but I'd stick with the sand. It may disappear over time into that deep top soil and you'll need to reapply.

Your situtation sounds like an N can do it given the time. Not that I'm envious or anything. No, no, nothing like that.

Jerry

(The bulldozer was fun though!)

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Wayne

11-06-2000 21:00:30




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 Re: 8N capacity for earthmoving in reply to Grant, 11-06-2000 18:39:09  
I also have a riding arena about 100x200. I'd think twice about that gravel. My arena is just clay and top soil. Turns to mud in the winter. At the Horsemen's Association they have a sand base and it is great in the winter. That sand base makes for no slipping. I move a lot of dirt with my KingKutter dirt scope. It works great.

Bottom line, with a few right implements you can do anything you want to a 100x200 arena.

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Roger in WA

11-06-2000 20:50:05




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 Re: 8N capacity for earthmoving in reply to Grant, 11-06-2000 18:39:09  
Grant - I would advise you NOT to put gravel under the sand in your riding arena unless you have a drainage problem or the sand is very thick. You will find that you will want to drag your arena periodically to fluff up the soil. Unless you put in a thick layer of sand, you will be mixing sand and gravel.

Your 8N will move a lot of material...Last week I did some landscaping with mine. I moved 60yards of topsoil, 5 tons of basalt rock and five tons of 5/8 gravel in a day and a half.....easily!

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JimNC

11-06-2000 19:07:51




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 Re: 8N capacity for earthmoving in reply to Grant, 11-06-2000 18:39:09  
An 8N can do almost anything you can think of. I don't think I would get in any hurry moving that amount of earth though. There have been posts here of guys skidding monsterous logs and other scary stuff, so don't let its size and low horsepower fool you. As for hiring a dozer rates around here run anywhere from $100 up with operator. Would'nt think you would need gravel underlayment. Think you could compact soil underneath with a homemade rig, ie 55 gal drums with sand or concrete in them.

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MikeC

11-06-2000 19:01:36




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 Re: 8N capacity for earthmoving in reply to Grant, 11-06-2000 18:39:09  
I have a 9N with a Dearborn loader and a 7' back blade. I recently took down a hillside and reshaped it to make it possible to mow. I also just finished moving and spreading about 30 tons of white rock for my driveway.

The N's will handle this just fine. Just don't over do it. I have found that smaller bucket loads work better than trying to grunt and groan with a full bucket.



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