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12 Volt Conversion HELP!?!?

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Brian Ramsbey

11-05-2000 11:09:29




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I am having real problems here... I read the FAQ here and it says you need the resistor in the circuit to limit current to the ignition. Now the Schematic supplied with my kit was not only barely readable but does not tell you that you need the resistor. Could someone tell me two things here. What is the value and wattage rating of this resistor(my tractor doesn't have one). Where do you hook it up. Do you put it in series with the coil?

Mytractor ran for about 2-3 hours hen quit. The 12 Volt coil was so hot I could keep my hands on it. I check the ignition and I am getting very weak of no spark. I put the original 6 volt coil on to try and the tractor fired right up.

I need help?!?!?!

Brian

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Claus

11-05-2000 12:13:21




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 Re: 12 Volt Conversion HELP!?!? in reply to Brian Ramsbey, 11-05-2000 11:09:29  
I have a 12 to 6 volt reducing resistor and I measured the resistance. It measured .540 Ohms using a 4 wire ohm meter. This is at 25C. The resistance will increase as it gets hot. Some time ago, I put 2 amps through it to heat it up and the resistance increased to over 2 ohms... The resistor needs to be about 15 watts minimum... depending on the coil current.. With the 12 volt coil you would need a ballast resistor. You probably destroyed your 12 volt coil. If you run your 6 volt coil on 12 volts, you will destroy it even quicker. Decent conversion kits should have this information and have the dropping resistor, but do not include the ballast resistor since they do not if you have a side mount or front mount coil. The 6 volt front mount needs a ballast resistor. If this coil is utilized then you would put the 12 - 6 volt dropping resistor in series with the ballast resistor. If one has the side mount 6 volt coil then one would only use the dropping resistor. If one has the front mount 12 volt coil, then one would use a ballast resistor only. If one uses the 12 volt side mount, then it would depend on the type of coil one uses.. Hope this helps.
Happy Motoring
Claus

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Brian Ramsbey

11-07-2000 11:18:47




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 Re: Re: 12 Volt Conversion HELP!?!? in reply to Claus, 11-05-2000 12:13:21  
Ok... What is the value of a ballast resistor. I have a 49' front mount which I bought a upgrade kit. Like I said it included no resistors or said anything about useing one.... Now I have a 12 volt battery, Alt. and Coil(Probally burned up) but I don't know what resistor to use to get a 12 volt coil to work. If I understand what everyone is telling me so far is if you have a 6 volt coil (which I don't) you need to in series one dropping from 12 to 6 then some kind of current limiting resistor to the coil. Bat Dropping Limiting Coil
+12V --/\/\/\/\---/\/\/\/\---O---

Is this correct? So If I have a 12 volt coil then I still need the current limitng resistor? Can anyone tell me about that ones value?

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Brian

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Brian Ramsbey

11-07-2000 11:18:26




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 Re: Re: 12 Volt Conversion HELP!?!? in reply to Claus, 11-05-2000 12:13:21  
Ok... What is the value of a ballast resistor. I have a 49' front mount which I bought a upgrade kit. Like I said it included no resistors or said anything about useing one.... Now I have a 12 volt battery, Alt. and Coil(Probally burned up) but I don't know what resistor to use to get a 12 volt coil to work. If I understand what everyone is telling me so far is if you have a 6 volt coil (which I don't) you need to in series one dropping from 12 to 6 then some kind of current limiting resistor to the coil. Bat Dropping Limiting Coil
+12V --/\/\/\/\---/\/\/\/\---O---

Is this correct? So If I have a 12 volt coil then I still need the current limitng resistor? Can anyone tell me about that ones value?

Thanks

Brian

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Dell (WA)

11-07-2000 23:47:15




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 Re: Re: Re: 12 Volt Conversion HELP!?!? in reply to Brian Ramsbey, 11-07-2000 11:18:26  
Brian..... ...well I'm impressed, you got the schematic correct on how to hook up a 6 volt frontmount coil to 12 volts.

I would interpet your schematic to say I have 1 resistor that drops the 12 volts to 6 volts (just like before the conversion) and then you say that you have a "ballast resistor" to drop the 6 volts to 3.5 volts to run the OEM 6 volt coil.

Therefore logically speaking, to use a 12 volt frontmount coil, you would REMOVE the 12 volt to 6 volt dropping resistor.

BUT BECAUSE the new 12 volt front mount ignition coil is designed for 13 volts MAX, and because your alternator is putting out 14.7 volts, you will BURN out your 12 volt coil IF you don't have the "ballast resistor" to limit the power going to the 12 volt coil. THEREFORE, you must still CONTINUE TO USE the original "ballast resistor" to keep from burning out the 12 volt coil. Its an Ohms Law thing.

Bat.....ballast....Coil
+12V ---/\/\/\/\---O---

It generally takes Electronics Lab grade Ohm meter to measure the value of the Ballast resistor, but one book quotes the ballast resistance at 0.7 ohms. I take that to be the "hot" value and the cold value to be about 0.5 ohms.

This is why frontmount coil problems are told to measure the voltage at the coil terminal where regular ol' voltmeters are very accurate. In the case of a 12 volt front mount, look for about 10 to 11 volts. Exact value is not too critical. Obviously, if its over 13 volts, ya' gotts problems somewere.

Hope this helps explain..... ....Dell

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