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200lb Counter Weight done!

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Mark Hendershot

01-30-2002 12:09:22




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I finish the Counter Weight for the front end. I made 2- Slip in recevers welded to a 6" X 13" Channel Steel Plate which I bolted to the Axle Support Houseing w/3- 3/4" Grade 5 Bolts. The Weight is 32" of 5" Round Bar Stock welded to 21" of 3" Channel welded to the Box Steel Recevers with Gussets. The whole set up weights about 200lbs and can be removed with a floor jack and the Bumper sliped in instead. The Hood has room to tilt forward with it on. I posted a picture of it on the Implement Photos under "Counter Weight" if interested in seeing it. Mark H.

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EDDIE8N

01-30-2002 17:05:07




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 Re: 200lb Counter Weight done! in reply to Mark Hendershot, 01-30-2002 12:09:22  
Mark,
Nice looking job, but like Jhill , I'm interested in knowing how well it works.
Later,
EDDIE8N



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Mark Hendershot

01-30-2002 17:41:09




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 Re: Re: 200lb Counter Weight done! in reply to EDDIE8N, 01-30-2002 17:05:07  
I used it tonight a friend gave me a John Deere 400 Lawn tractor biggest they make in this type and the forks lifted it up! I am not sure how much it weights but a lot more then 6 bales of hay. I will find out how much they are. The wheels stayed down too. I was able to move it around but did not want to drive a mile+ to my house with it so I will have to trailer it home. Mark H.



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Mark Hendershot

01-30-2002 19:58:53




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 Re: Re: Re: 200lb Counter Weight done! in reply to Mark Hendershot, 01-30-2002 17:41:09  
I found out the John Deere weights over 800lbs so with the forks that was about 1,100 lbs total. More than I intended to lift with it. Mark H.



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EDDIE8N

01-31-2002 19:10:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 200lb Counter Weight done! in reply to Mark Hendershot, 01-30-2002 19:58:53  
Mark,
Sounds to me like your problems is solved.
EDDIE8N



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Mark Hendershot

01-31-2002 19:16:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 200lb Counter Weight done! in reply to EDDIE8N, 01-31-2002 19:10:07  
Yes it is! And again thanks for the Help! Might haft to make a Front Rack for the Mount now to use for fence work tools ect. I could just drill a few holes in the light bumper and bolt it to it when needed. More toys! Mark H.



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Jhill

01-30-2002 13:36:55




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 Re: 200lb Counter Weight done! in reply to Mark Hendershot, 01-30-2002 12:09:22  
I thought you weren't going to build a weight. It would get tiresome backing up the hill all the time. Let us know how it works As an interesting aside I was reading a book called Ford Tractor Implements and on page 35 they had a set of graphs showing how much weight a 9N could carry on both the level and up a 30% grade. I found it kind of interesting after the our previous conversations.

By the way I also like the Panzer. I remeber seeing them in the middle 70's when my Dad was looking at riding mowers. The one I remember had a bench seat. I guess so you and your wife could cut grass together.

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Mark Hendershot

01-30-2002 19:11:18




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 Re: Re: 200lb Counter Weight done! in reply to Jhill, 01-30-2002 13:36:55  
I wasn't going to build one if I could not figure a way of making it go on and off easy. Also I wanted to be able to open the hood since it tilts forward. Ed had a idea that worked great for it plus I could slide the bumper in the mount when the weight is not needed. The Panzer I have has the single tractor seat, they do make one with a bench seat. Why don't you post something on the information you have for the 9N? Thanks, Mark H.

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Barnstormer

01-30-2002 13:33:19




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 Re: 200lb Counter Weight done! in reply to Mark Hendershot, 01-30-2002 12:09:22  
Nice setup, Mark. The versatility that your mount offers could start a whole new industry of implements for our tractors. I wonder how a tow bar would work on there? ...tool rack? ...cherry picker hoist? ...etc.



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Barnstormer

01-30-2002 13:43:28




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 Re: Re: 200lb Counter Weight done! in reply to Barnstormer, 01-30-2002 13:33:19  
After thinking about my statement above, I wonder if the stresses placed on that area might be too much for the front of the engine and axle flange to do much lifting. The bumpers mounted to the axle direct any impact back to the transmission case. Anyone else thought about this?



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Mark Hendershot

01-30-2002 19:18:40




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 Re: Re: Re: 200lb Counter Weight done! in reply to Barnstormer, 01-30-2002 13:43:28  
At first I could not figure what you meant about transfering the impact to the transmission, now I know what you mean thru the Radius Arms mounts. Good point. Mark H.



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Mark Hendershot

01-30-2002 17:34:07




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 Re: Re: Re: 200lb Counter Weight done! in reply to Barnstormer, 01-30-2002 13:43:28  
Where I bolted it to is the place that the front end loader attaches (3-3/4" factory holes in it). If I bolted it to the axles it would be hanging off the pivot point instead and could jerk against the steering rods ect. This way it is just like the engine being 200lbs heaver. Not sure about the 8N or 9Ns but the Ferguson has a real strong axle support that is bolted with 4- 3/4" bolts to the engine Block backed up by 3/4"+ thick casting, and the support is the strongest point of attachment on it. The Ferguson dose not use the oilpan for support. Mark H.

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Mike

01-30-2002 12:39:06




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 Re: 200lb Counter Weight done! in reply to Mark Hendershot, 01-30-2002 12:09:22  
Hey Mark,
If I need a counter weight I let the wife drive and I get on the front of the tractor. Saves all that fabricating.
Mike



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Mark Hendershot

01-30-2002 12:46:04




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 Re: Re: 200lb Counter Weight done! in reply to Mike, 01-30-2002 12:39:06  
My problem is my Wife weights only 118lbs, but she can lift 150lbs + and I would not dare git her mad with her arms that mix cookie doe all day! They call them Bakers Arms great for lifting Rail Road Ties and Bags of Concrete but not the kind you would want grabing your throut with. Mark H.



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Mike

01-30-2002 12:51:43




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 Re: Re: Re: 200lb Counter Weight done! in reply to Mark Hendershot, 01-30-2002 12:46:04  
I know the feeling, that's why she makes me sit up front, she's small but can be mean.



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