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Loader (Where do I start?)

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ChuckD

09-26-2000 05:44:24




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I've decided on a loader for my '45 2N. Now the question is where do I start? What do I need first? I've seen the archives about a pump off the PTO and one off the crank. Do these pumps require modification to the sheet medal. How are they mounted? Do they affect the PTO? As you can see I'm new to this. What do I look for in a pump?
I've seen crankcase replacement pulleys for mounting a pump (whatever that means) :):)

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Chuck

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jim

09-27-2000 14:29:56




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 Re: Loader (Where do I start?) in reply to ChuckD, 09-26-2000 05:44:24  
I've heard about rear-mounted loaders on the 3 point hitch. Does anyone know anything about these?



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Jim WI

09-28-2000 11:12:56




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 Re: Re: Loader (Where do I start?) in reply to jim, 09-27-2000 14:29:56  
If we're thinking of the same piece of equipment, they're not really loaders as much as dirt scoops. By that I mean that while you can use them to scoop up and move dirt or other materials, you can't really use them to load a truck or trailer.

If all you need to do is move a pile of material (or spread it) they'll do the job.



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Jim WI

09-27-2000 10:20:42




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 Re: Loader (Where do I start?) in reply to ChuckD, 09-26-2000 05:44:24  
Some loaders are powered by the hydraulics normally used to run the 3-point lift mechanism. These are generally lighter-weight designs. The main problem with these is that the clutch needs to be engaged in order for the pump to be running. Consequently, you drive up and shove the bucket into into the pile, then shift out of gear before lifting the bucket. Either that or stay in gear and keep moving while the bucket lifts.

The other version mounts a hydraulic pump on the front of the tractor. These loaders generally have some sort of frame that mounts to the tractor and provides a place to mount the pump.

The replacement crank pulleys are designed so that you can drive a pump with a shaft that runs through the front of the tractor just under the radiator.

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Paul - Pine Island MN

09-26-2000 18:34:52




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 Re: Loader (Where do I start?) in reply to ChuckD, 09-26-2000 05:44:24  
Were it me, and I were looking for a new loader, I'd at least talk to John CO tOTG about his modifications to the Paulson. He handles a couple of things I don't like about the Paulson Lightweight - the need to strap down the three-point and the trip bucket. His e-mail is jjbow@bigfoot.com



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Larry

09-26-2000 13:51:14




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 Re: Loader (Where do I start?) in reply to ChuckD, 09-26-2000 05:44:24  
Howdy! I have a loader with the pump mounted onto the pto. It is bolted to a bracket that is bolted to the tractor by the pto. I rarely use it and will be getting rid of it soon. It's just that when I do need it, it comes in real handy. Also, when it's hooked up, I can't have the lights or the grill on due to the clearance problems. I bought it with the loader, and it looks like the previous owner had the headlights on when he installed it, but wasn't thinking and raised the loader and SNAP! Both lights gone with 2 nice dents in the sheet metal.

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Russ in SoCal

09-26-2000 11:45:44




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 Re: Loader (Where do I start?) in reply to ChuckD, 09-26-2000 05:44:24  
Chuck, Although I have a loader on my (wife's) '48 8N, the best advice I've read on this board regarding loaders on the 9/2/8N is, Don't. They are a bear to steer and it really stresses the front end.
If you really need the loader, Truck is right in recommending a lightweight design. Also, it's a good idea to have top-notch brake performance and use the brakes instead of the "Armstrong power steering" as much as possible. Russ

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Truck

09-26-2000 09:48:44




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 Re: Loader (Where do I start?) in reply to ChuckD, 09-26-2000 05:44:24  
Do a search for paulson Loaders. They have a website and a dandy looking little loader that might just work.
Front pump is the way to go.Use an old grille or a repro, don't cut up a good one.That way the loader will work whether the clutch is in or not.
Problem with loaders and N's is they can't handle a lot of weight on the front end without steering problems. Your 2N will be much harder to steer once you load the bucket up. But that might be better than the alternative of hand shoveling.

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