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DaveVT

09-10-2000 12:29:30




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Hi! I'm looking for a small tractor and have been advised to go with a Farmall A over the 8N because supposedly the 8N is very prone to coming over backwards!? I would much prefer the 8N ,but would like any comment as to whether or not the tractor is as unstable as I've been told. Thanks!




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U can't go rong with an N series

09-11-2000 12:45:06




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 Re: 8N Stability? in reply to DaveVT, 09-10-2000 12:29:30  
Dave-

I "lived with" an 8N from late 1949 to 1984. I and my bro did all sorts of odd jobs around the neighborhood over all those years. You absolutely cannot go wrong with a Ford N series mosheene!

Yes, they come up short on power for many people. If so, that is a purchaser's mistake- not understanding their needs. It was advertised and sold as a 20 HP tractor.

Back flips and roll overs with the Ford N series come off as near impossible. Anybody that claims one of them musta been into some kinda suicidal mode, or only had three warm brain cells. A back flip simply don't work because of the three point mounted equipment.

Or some moron pulling hitched above the axels center line. All that talk comes off as clues to an insurance scam, or suicide, with me.

"Wheelies", yes I experienced 'em many times. Keep in mind that back flip stops when the rear mounted implement hits the ground.

On the other hand... I got a neighbor pushing up sod now, because his Farmall M back flipped him into the manure spreader he was pulling up a hill. What a way to go! Yuck!

The Ford N series equipment is better than gold as an investment, and even better for actual use. The near 70 year old design is beyond criticism and the stuff just keeps on running, more so than the Energizer Bunny.

If you get a chance, grab an N series tractor. It'll out live all of us.

Grins, IHank

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Pat

09-11-2000 10:29:32




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 Re: 8N Stability? in reply to DaveVT, 09-10-2000 12:29:30  
I have been around working N's all my life, and have never seen one close to going over backwards. If you have a drawbar that attaches between the two arms and your pulling from that with the hydrolic in the up position, be prepared to steer with the brakes. Because the tractor will pull the front wheels about eighteen inches off the ground and you and whatever your pulling will move forward. The only risk of going over backwards is if your lazy and try pulling from where the top link attaches. Use common sense and you'll be fine. Pat

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Dave in Mo

09-11-2000 09:44:11




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 Re: 8N Stability? in reply to DaveVT, 09-10-2000 12:29:30  
Dave, I've got them both. Buy the Ford.



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Redbelly1

09-11-2000 04:07:13




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 Re: 8N Stability? in reply to DaveVT, 09-10-2000 12:29:30  
i heard all the flip-over stories before i bought my 8N. i bought it anyway and am happy i did. any tractor can be un-safe if used incorrectly. if your concerned about being light in the front end, i would suggest getting a heavy bumper for the front end and filling the front tires with water and anti-freeze.

i'd get the N.



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ih_bug

09-10-2000 19:53:22




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 Re: 8N Stability? in reply to DaveVT, 09-10-2000 12:29:30  
hate to say it but if your going to be using three point implements your probaly better off with the 8n . i like my red paint and have a farmall SA along with others and i just aquired a 9n (i think, may be a 2n serial number is gone) from what i have used the ford the super a has the edge in horsepower and has a real drawbar but that offset seat is built for cultivating and when you hook a gravity wagon on that right wheel likes to spin and i have wheel weights. as far as stability goes the A will be over way before the 8n is even getting light on one side

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Salmoneye

09-10-2000 17:50:03




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 Re: 8N Stability? in reply to DaveVT, 09-10-2000 12:29:30  
Dave,

The 8N, IMHO, is far superior for any, and all, tasks to the Farmall A.

The Farmall A is a collectors item and should be viewed that way. I know some that 'work', but very few.

The Ford 8N (or any N) is a worker! It is also very collectable because of it's inherent simplicity, versatility, beauty and grace.
I have never heard of an 'N' going over backwards that was not the fault of an inatentive or inexperienced operator.

Parts for the 'N's are readily available, and comparativly inexpensive.

I could go on, but I won't...

Paul II

PS I am a 7th generation Vermonter. Would I lie to you :-)

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Craig (FL)

09-11-2000 20:37:24




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 Re: Re: 8N Stability? in reply to Salmoneye, 09-10-2000 17:50:03  
Salmoneye,
Where in Vermont do you reside? I lived in Middlesex for 5 yrs when I was a little younger. Beautiful country. -Craig



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Salmoneye

09-12-2000 04:44:00




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 Re: Re: Re: 8N Stability? in reply to Craig (FL), 09-11-2000 20:37:24  
Hi Craig!

I am about 10 miles south of Burlington. My Mother's family has been in this town since 1880.
Dad's family are newbies to the Champlain Valley. They have only been this side of the mountains since 1900. Both sides are French and Indian and emmigrated from Canada in the early 1800's.

Paul II, In Vermont



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Vic

09-10-2000 19:17:36




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 Re: Re: 8N Stability? in reply to Salmoneye, 09-10-2000 17:50:03  
"...inherent simplicity, versatility, beauty and grace"

I don't think I've ever heard a better description of the N series tractor!



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raytasch

09-10-2000 15:14:57




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 Re: 8N Stability? in reply to DaveVT, 09-10-2000 12:29:30  
Dave, Someone probably told you that "Old Ford tractors are prone to rear up." They probably got half the story right but the wrong series. The early Fordsons were prone to rear up and had the title of "Widow Maker". I have used the small Ford utility tractors, 8N, 9N, NAA, for years. IMHO, they are quite forgiving. ray



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bg

09-10-2000 13:55:38




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 Re: 8N Stability? in reply to DaveVT, 09-10-2000 12:29:30  
The 8N is no more prone to flip over backward than any other tractor IF the tractor is used as designed. The Farmall A or Super A is just as likely to go over backwards and has the added risk of turning over sideways more easily. The Farmall has a higher center of gravity, and is offset to the left, making the right side "lighter." Most A's have a wheel weight attached to the right side drive wheel to equalize traction for that reason.

Problem is, people do stupid things with the tractor, like skidding logs with a chain hooked to the top link attachment.

Use your head, observe standard tractor safety rules(do an internet search for "tractor safety" and see how many hits you get), don't cowboy the tractor and you'll be OK.

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Vic

09-10-2000 13:38:13




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 Re: 8N Stability? in reply to DaveVT, 09-10-2000 12:29:30  
I've never used a Farmall A, so I can't compare the two, but it might be a completely moot issue depending on what you're planning to do with the tractor (for example, do you plan on using only 3-point implements, or are you just going to mow?

It'd be helpful to know what your plans are, and what kinds of implements you want to use.



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