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Mowing in 2nd

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Nick Nickerson

08-04-2000 13:31:43

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Is my Jubilee vulnerable to that 2nd gear weakness while I'm mowing? Some past posts
recommended no mowing in second...I do several miles of woods roads several times a year pulling a BH Squealer and use 2nd primarily...and yeah...I hit stuff from time to time...thanks for the info Nick

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Jim.UT

08-04-2000 22:36:24

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Re: Jubilee - Mowing in 2nd in reply to Nick Nickerson, 08-04-2000 13:31:43

I'm not an expert, but I heard or read somewhere (probably here or over on the Ford board) that all Ford tractor 4 speed trannies were the same, at least internally, from 8N through the hundred series. Anyone else know for sure?

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ZANE

08-05-2000 05:02:45

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Re: Re: Jubilee - Mowing in 2nd in reply to Jim.UT, 08-04-2000 22:36:24

Most parts in the 4 speed transmissions are interchangable from 48 till the end of production of the copycat 2000 and 4000 which werelike the 601 and 801 except they were blue.

I know for a certainty that if you are going to break the transmission it is going to be done while bush hogging in 2nd gear. This is the voice of experiance here! If you fixed about 50 4 speed transmissions over the years and nearly every single one was a broken second gear while bush hogging in second gear what would be your conclusion?????

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2fordsmike

08-05-2000 07:25:49

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Re: Re: Re: Jubilee - Mowing in 2nd in reply to ZANE, 08-05-2000 05:02:45

Zane: Great piece of info. As you know, I mowed a gazillion acres in 2nd trimming Missouri pastures as a kid. I will never do again if there is a good chance I'll hit a rock or stob (little stump). What were your customers hitting that tore up 2nd gear? Rocks? Stumps? We did tear up a gearbox on our first rotary mower. That mower used the Ford belt pulley assembley as the rotor drive. M

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Mowing / Brush Cutting Confusion

08-05-2000 06:46:58

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Re: Re: Re: Jubilee - Mowing in 2nd in reply to ZANE, 08-05-2000 05:02:45

There is a big difference between Finish Mowers and Rotary Mowers (Brush Cutter some people refer to Bush Hog). Finish Mowers usually have 2 or 3 light weight blades and are belt driven. Belt drives are by nature forgiving when a solid object is hit and will not transmit most of the shock to the drivetrain and I would use 2nd gear to mow. Brush cutters on the other hand are different animals and if not equipped with a good slip device would transmit shock to the drivetrain and I will agree with Mr. Zane that 1st gear would probably be better suited.
Happy Mowing
Claus

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Dell WA)

08-04-2000 14:41:42

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Re: Jubilee - Mowing in 2nd in reply to Nick Nickerson, 08-04-2000 13:31:43

Nick..... .Zane's opinion and experience about 8N 2nd gear weakness certainly merit consideration. I personally think the use of the Over Running Coupler (ORC) on the tractors PTO shaft reduces the 2nd gear vunerablility to transmitted shock from the brushog hitting things. Remember too, the 8N's 2nd gear was supposedly designed for and recommended for continious heavy duty use pulling a 2 bottom plow. 2nd gear load from a brushog is definately not of the same level.

My ol' timer tractor mechanic mentor neighbor from the 70's was very adamant about using an ORC with a brushog. Claimed it prevented expensive tranny noises. I recommend using the ORC to keep the rotory inertial energy from the brushog from backdriving thru the PTO into the tranny and making the tractor continue to drive when you clutch to slow down to go around the barn corner, fence post, creek bank, irrigation ditch, wifes car (don't ask). I personally usually use 1st and under gear because my ground is too rough to go faster..... ...Dell

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Claus

08-04-2000 14:26:42

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Re: Jubilee - Mowing in 2nd in reply to Nick Nickerson, 08-04-2000 13:31:43

Although I have an 8N, I use 2nd gear most of the time for mowing. I think that this 2nd gear thing is over emphesized. I think you can safely mow in second for the next 50 years or so...
Happy Mowing
Claus

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