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8N 12V conversion question

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Dave

08-03-2000 20:57:37




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I have converted my newly rebuilt 8N to 12Volt Negative ground but still have a question. My N is running good except for a light popping occasionally from the exhaust. I bought a resistor at CT which I was told was to run 6V coil on 12V system. I put it in series with the factory resistor mounted on the terminal block. Is it necessary for both resistors? I only see one in the conversion diagrams I have veiwed. Thanks!

Dave

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Dell (WA)

08-03-2000 22:35:15




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 Re: 8N 12V conversion question in reply to Dave, 08-03-2000 20:57:37  
Dave..... ..yes, no, and maybe..... .ya' forgot to tell us wheather your 8N is a frontmound distributor engine or a later sidemount distributor engine. makes a big difference in the ignition electrics.

Gack....its hard to verbalize a picture diagram of electricals when I don't know which picture your are refering to.

Another tutorial....N-Tractors have 2 types of ignition systems. Frontmount and sidemount. Frontmount already have mounted on the backside of the dash what is called a "ballast resistor". (Side mounts do not have this) This has several functions but basically it is designed to control the current/power going thru the frontmount ignition coil/points. Too much current/power melts the insulative "tar" inside the ignition coil and shorts out the turns of the coil and reduces the sparkies so the tractor don't run so good.

If you have the OEM 6 volt front coil, you want to measure about 3.5 volts at the ignition coil terminal. (3 min 4.5 max) Any other voltage wheather 12 volt conversion or 6 volt OEM and you are going to have sparkie problems. Now then, you use resistors to control the voltage at the frontmount ignition coil terminal.

In a typical 12 volt conversion, many for some reason want to keep their OEM 6 volt coil (to save money?) therefore, they get a 12 volt to 6 volt conversion resistor to go in series (like flashlight batterys) with the original OEM "ballast resistor). and this works.

Pretty good depending upon the resistance value of the 12 to 6 volt dropping resistor. Sometimes the 12 to 6 volt resistance is too much and instead of dropping the voltage to 6 volts, drops it to 5 volts and then the original ballast drops the voltage even more, like to about 2.5 volts and then the OEM frontmount doesn't make enuff sparkies to run wortha hoot.

Some that understand electronics/electricity choose to "consoladate" both afore mentioned resistors into 1 common resistor that does the same thing. Regulate the voltage to the frontmount OEM 6 volt coil to the desired 3.5 volts.

So basically, ya' just kant go resistoring willie nillie, ya got to understand electricity somewhat..... end tutorial.

As for why you are hearing a little popping from the exhaust, sorry, I'm hard of hearing..... ..Dell

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Dave

08-04-2000 06:11:53




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 Re: Re: 8N 12V conversion question in reply to Dell (WA), 08-03-2000 22:35:15  
I have the front mount distributor. And I am quite familiar with electronics as I am a radio technician and repair Motorola wireless products. I am not, however, familiar with the electrical requirements in automotive or agricultural equipment. I would prefer to have the 12V coil if one is available. Also, I am currently using a light on the excite terminal of the alternator and would like to use a resistor and a small dash indicator so can you tell me what the requirements of this terminal of the alternator are so I can figure the resistance and wattage of the resistor I will use. The light I am using know requires you rev the engine to begin charging. Thanks!

Dave

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Claus

08-04-2000 07:07:07




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 Re: Re: Re: 8N 12V conversion question in reply to Dave, 08-04-2000 06:11:53  
Yes, 12 front mount coils are available. If you cannnot find one, e-mail me and I will give you a source. You can use a Radio Shack 10 ohm 10 watt resistor instead of the "marker light" This is the test circuit from Delco for their SI series ac generators. Lights are not required as they give little indication of anything useful. (From one Radio man to another)KN4HY
Happy Motoring
Claus



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Indiana Al

08-05-2000 17:30:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N 12V conversion question in reply to Claus, 08-04-2000 07:07:07  
Claus --
I'm responding to your offer to help with a source of front-mount 12-volt "N" ignition coil. I've converted from 6 to 12 volts about two years ago, and would rather run the system on just a 12-volt coil in lieu of old 6-volt coil in conjunction with a resistor to get 4 volts across the coil. Does the 12-volt coil still require a resistor too? My resistor makes a lot of heat, which will undoubtedly shorten its useful life. My e-mail is [email protected].
Thank you.

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