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1939 9N Aluminum Parts?

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Donzil (NM)

11-25-2002 20:12:39




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I recently picked up a complete 1939 9N for parts for my newer (1940) 9N. I am new to the N series. I noticed the 39 has an cast aluminum dash/steering part, which is complete, but broken in several places. Also has a aluminum transmission top cover and aluminum cover on side of rearend. Hood and legs are steel. Has a four spoke steering wheel in good shape too. Is this common...is there any collector value for the aluminum parts? Thanks for any input! Sincerely Donzil

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Donzil (NM) Thanks Guys!

11-26-2002 23:16:34




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 Re: 1939 9N Aluminum Parts? in reply to Donzil (NM), 11-25-2002 20:12:39  
Thanks to all of you that took the time to respond. I have learned alot! Sadly, my 39 does not have a alum grill, and now after looking closer the rear end on the (running) 1940 appears to be the one originally on the 1939 (not running-missing carb), I may have to swap them back. So anyway, I picked up a 6 cyl Funk-8N, so am going to get rid of both 9N's. My wife said a 2 for 1 is good! Can you imagine...she thanks a person can have too many tractors??? Thanks again for all the information, it is much appreciated. Sincerely, Donzil

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Scott

11-26-2002 16:47:26




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 Re: 1939 9N Aluminum Parts? in reply to Donzil (NM), 11-25-2002 20:12:39  
The cast alluminum dash/battery tray, trans. cover, round side cover and hydraulic pump housings were used up until mid 1941, if these items broke they were replaced with the later steel versions, the dash if it was not broke, the battery cover and the 2 rib fenders could bring alot of money. If your 1939 is complete why use it for parts? Is there something you can't locate for your 1940? Fix up the 1939 or sell it for a profit to someone who wants to restore one.

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Dell (WA)

11-25-2002 23:28:18




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 Re: 1939 9N Aluminum Parts? in reply to Donzil (NM), 11-25-2002 20:12:39  
Donzil..... ...the first 9000 or so, (no body knows fer sure) 1939 9N's had aluminum hoods, aluminum horizontal bar radiator grill shell, aluminum dash panel, and 4-spoke steering wheel, 9-32 rear wheels. All these are highly sought after by avid "originality aficionado's" 'cuz they're somewhat fragile but can be easily repaired with todays modern TIG welding. I don't have a clue as to their value..... ...Dell

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Correction to Dell's message

11-26-2002 01:02:04




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 Re: Re: 1939 9N Aluminum Parts? in reply to Dell (WA), 11-25-2002 23:28:18  
Just a slight typo with the zeros that's all.

First 700-900 9N's had cast aluminum hoods and doglegs.

As for aluminum parts condition is value.

For cast alum. dashes keyswitch location determines some collecibility too. If on lower right or right dash that's early. Same goes with push starter button (on left with key on right early 39).

On left side it is a late 39-40 cast alum dash

Key on steering column mid 40 and on...

Cast aluminum parts inlcude:
Transmission cover with dipstick on cover:early 39. Standard cast alum. cover late 39 to somewhere in mid 40.

Inspection plates of cast alum fairly common.

Cast alum PTO cover 39 to early 40

4 spoke steering wheel in good shpae some value. expect 200.00 for it in very good condition. Tractor steering wheels sitting out in the elements took some abuse. But same 4 spoke Ford truck wheels can be found with some effort in great shape today. Just remove the horn mechnaism and replace it with a polished steel disc in the middle of it.

As far as rstorations: your newly acquired 39 would be of more interest to a collector. Consider restoring your 39 if it is complete.

Depending on dash condition a good ship yard that welds aluminum propellors should have the expertiese to repair your dash with minimal fuss and correctly.

Or, you will be able to locate an exact replacement with some effort, some ads, and some calls. Certainly not impossible.

Here's the kicker: YOUR CAST ALUMINUM HORIZONAL BAR GRILLE if original and in good shape is valuable.

ANd considering and assuming that your rear wheel hubs are smooth without hot riveted centers your 39 9N is a 5 star tractor (highest rating) worthy of restoration rather than the 40 that has somewhat lower collectibility value at 4 star.

Can you get another parts tractor for your 40 and restore that 39. It would be a shame to part it out.

Double check your brake levers and if they are identical that is another 39 feature as well as forward facing grease fittings on your front spindles.

Is the generator a small generator? It should be if intact to your tractor. Generator body should be the same size as the cast pulley on it. It is not uncommon for those to have some value. and range anywhere from 350 to 400.00.

I would definitley not part it out if it was me. But that's me and others don't think twice about it. But considering it as a complete 39 you are way ahead of the game.

9N'er

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9n141

11-26-2002 08:25:20




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 Re: Re: Re: 1939 9N Aluminum Parts? in reply to Correction to Dell's message, 11-26-2002 01:02:04  
Truck wheels are not always (maybe never) correct. CORRECT 4 spoke wheel has "finer" features, and has the word SHELLER on the back of one spoke. BURT.



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thanks for that information

11-26-2002 10:15:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 1939 9N Aluminum Parts? in reply to 9n141, 11-26-2002 08:25:20  
didn't know that. tom



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Soundguy

11-26-2002 06:04:42




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 Re: Re: Re: 1939 9N Aluminum Parts? in reply to Correction to Dell's message, 11-26-2002 01:02:04  
I'f he's handy with a propane gas bottly, there are even aluminum alloy repair rods that he can do himself. Just a little surface prep with a wire brush, etc... then polish the repaired area up a little.
I've seen these rods and such at flea markets, etc.... usually you will see a guy repairing a hole in an aluminum can, etc.. to demonstrate the low temps the rods work with, etc.

Soundguy



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Dave Smith

11-26-2002 13:33:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 1939 9N Aluminum Parts? in reply to Soundguy, 11-26-2002 06:04:42  
I tried that process once. Found it slightly stronger than chewing gum, but not mutch. A waste of time and money.
Dave <*)))><



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speaking of cast aluminum dashes

11-26-2002 03:42:15




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 Re: Re: Re: 1939 9N Aluminum Parts? in reply to Correction to Dell's message, 11-26-2002 01:02:04  
Saw this ad in the classifieds:

" Mike Located in: Moro, IL, USA For Sale: EARLY 9N FORD TRACTOR DASH IN EXCELLANT CONDITION. FOR 1939 OR 1940 9N WITH PUSH BUTTON STARTER ON DASH. Condition: EXCELLANT Price: 250.00
Phone: 618-377-7709"

He has hard to find 9n parts.

Lately, it seems, there has been a nice supply of rare 9N parts up for sale on ebay and here.

If only the time was right to get a 39.

9N'er

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