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2-bottom plow modification

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Lee (VA)

01-02-2002 10:39:51




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Has anyone got an idea for extending or replacing the mounting pins on a 2 bottom plow other than cutting them off flush and welding a new longer pin on, that's all I have come up with and I'm not too keen on a butt weld at a high pressure point. I aquired a Ferguson AO-14 2 bottom plow for my '51 8N at a price that couldn't be refused, but the mounting pins are not long enough to use the stabilizer bars. I've seen several discussions here about use or non-use of stabilizers for plowing and I would prefer to use them.
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Lee

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Larry 8N75381

01-02-2002 22:11:39




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 Re: 2-bottom plow modification in reply to Lee (VA), 01-02-2002 10:39:51  
Lee,

It is hard to not just say (yell!) no, No, NO! :-)

Rather let me ask, What do you think you will accomplish by putting on stabilizer bar(s)?!? If you think you will some how control the movement of the plow in the ground - forget it! Once in the ground the plow does not respond well to the tractor steering, i.e. you cannot turn on a dime like you can with a mower. What you do is "coax" the plow to turn, SLOWLY, while all the joints of the hitch groan in complaint! REALLY strange sound when you first hear it, and it does groan! :-)

Like Greg, my Uncle used his, now mine, 8N/plow on 250 acres and never used a stabilizer bar. I have heard of people doing it with just one which promptly becomes bent like a pretzel. The ONLY reason people get by using them is that they use TWO which means one is always in tension - the strongest mode - which keeps the other from being bend in compression - the weakest mode.

Since you bought the plow used, I would assume that it is already adjusted correctly to "follow" the tractor. What I mean by follow is that the "track" of the plow (the line created by the land slide/share) is in line with the axis of the tractor. If you have seen a car with the rear axle out of line you can visualize what I am trying to tell you, the rear axle makes the car "crab" to one side so the center line of the car does not follow the center line of the road, rather they form a small angle - looks funny when you follow one of them on the road. :-) Zane uses the rudder (like on a boat) analogy to describe the plow set up - you want the plow (rudder) to "steer" the tractor (boat) in a straight line.

ONLY if you change the share or mouldboard or other component should you have to readjust the plow. I used my Uncles just as it was. NO problem!

Would you please respond with what you think stabilizer bars will do for you? It would help me understand your reasoning - maybe you have a REAL good reason that I have not thought of.

Thanks,
Larry

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Greg NE

01-02-2002 19:16:54




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 Re: 2-bottom plow modification in reply to Lee (VA), 01-02-2002 10:39:51  
Lee, I will probably just fan the flames but I would not run stabilizer bars on a plow. My Dad and I have plowed with a 4000 and 5000 for years and Dad spent many an hour with his 8N plowing and never even thought to put on the bars, it works better to have the plow be able to swing a bit. Once you get the plow all set properly it will work great without the bars. Just my 2 and half cents worth Greg NE

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Tom-Pa

01-02-2002 17:15:14




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 Re: 2-bottom plow modification in reply to Lee (VA), 01-02-2002 10:39:51  
Lee, See my reply and link I gave on your implement alley post on this same subject.
Tom-Pa



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Dell (WA)

01-02-2002 12:41:20




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 Re: 2-bottom plow modification in reply to Lee (VA), 01-02-2002 10:39:51  
Lee..... ..totally understand your reluctance to submit buttweldments to highpressure loads. I wouldn't eather.

Howabout some sorta "cap" exendition onnna the end of yer plows lower link pin. Ya'd end up with 2 linchpin holes. Just cut the ends off of'n some spare lower link pins and weld away..... ..Dell



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Rob

01-02-2002 12:31:56




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 Re: 2-bottom plow modification in reply to Lee (VA), 01-02-2002 10:39:51  
Someone's probably done it and has a better idea but here's my 2-cents worth.
Cut 'em off. Mount pins on pieces of flat iron (or brackets) and mount the iron to the plow.



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