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2N Lift Arms Sluggish

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berrygrower

04-15-2000 21:52:48




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My tractor's lift arms are very slow to respond, taking as much as 30 sec. or more to start moving. Sometimes they don't respond at all and I must drop then all the way and try again. this is my first tractor and I have no knowledge. I haven't even learned yet what fluid to use or where it goes!
Please help.
Judy




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ZANE

04-16-2000 15:11:07




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 Re: 2N Lift Arms Sluggish in reply to berrygrower, 04-15-2000 21:52:48  
Hello Judy, First thing you shoul do is to drain out all the old oil from the transmission, the lift and the differential. It all gets mixed in the tractor but it won't all drain out unless you open all the drains.
Re fill it with 134 hydraulic oil if it is to be used in fairly cool temperatures. It is to be used in hot climate and worked hard you should use the 80-90W multipurpose oil.
If after you have changed the oil it still acts slowly you should open up the right hand inspection plate on the right side of the lift houaing and look in and see if the spring that is connected between the contro forks and the front of the ram cylinder is tight enough to pull the control valve which is in the pump which will be mostly under the oil.
While you have the inspection plate off you should place an implement on the lift arms and while trying to lift the implement look inside and see if you see oil coming down from above.If you see more that a few drips or a steady stream that may be part of the problem. You must eleminate the leaks internally before it will work right.
Now would also be a good time to check out the pressure relief valve which is at the back of the pump and just under the PTO.It takes an 11/16 boxed end wrench to get it out. Preferably a short one. I have a couple I have cut off. Or you can heat and bend it in a 45 and it will work.
It would really be best to replace the relief valve if after doing all else has failed.The 9N lift has no position control.To maintain the lift at a given position the hand must constantly be on the control lever to continually re adjust.

The most common places to leak on the lift is the piston rings and the pressure relief valve.
In order to determine where the lift is leaking you should remove the right hand inspection plate that holds the dip stick for the lift oil.If oil runs out when this cover is removed it has too much oil in it and letting it run out is ok.

Start the tractor with a load on the lift arms such as a rotary cutter etc. raise the lift and observe inside the lift to see where the oil is leaking down.If the piston rings are leaking their will be a pretty good stream of oil coming out the end of the ram cylinder. If just a few drops this is ok.

Observe the oil in the resorvoir and if you see the oil swirling around the relief valve is probably leaking.It is the gadget that is screwed into the back of the hydralic pump just under the pto shaft.It will be under the oil and feels something like a spark plug.

If before starting the tractor you will put your hand into the oil and locate the relief valve you can reach in and put one finger over the end of the relief valve and determine if it is leaking after the tractor has again been started. DON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE OF PUTING A FINGER IN THE PUMP MECHANISM!!!!

If however you don't see a signifacant leak from the top you can assume that the relief valve is leaking and simply replace it with a new one and thereby prvent the possible loss of a finger or two.

I;ve never tried itm,but I�ve read that you can drain enough oil from the lift reservoir to uncover the relief valve and see if it is leaking instead of using the obviously dangerous finger feel thing I described.


There could also be a blown gasket somewhere in the upper portion of the lift but if so you will see a lot of oil coming down from the top and then it�s just a case of taking the cover off and finding the culprit.

Be sure to release the control rods from the control valve T on the pump before trying to remove the lift cover. To fail to do so will result in a broken lift control valve stem.
Zane in Alabama.

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Old George with brain damage

04-16-2000 16:37:34




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 Re: Re: 2N Lift Arms Sluggish in reply to ZANE, 04-16-2000 15:11:07  
I just read your response Zane and wondered how in the world did you help the lady without knowing what kind of tractor she has. Da, read the subject line? I guess I better have my first cup of coffee before I sit at the keyboard. Or maybe I should try Coors Light. No, I'll just blame it on my kids. They are out of school for a couple of weeks for Easter break and sometimes they are enough to give anybody brain damage, but I love them anyway. I think I'll just go out to the shop and mount that engine now that I have the clutch off thanks to your help.

Alan Esch
45 2N 183513

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Roger in WA

04-17-2000 06:38:42




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 Re: Re: Re: 2N Lift Arms Sluggish in reply to Old George with brain damage, 04-16-2000 16:37:34  
Isn't that "dain bramage"? or do only us lysdexics have that problem?



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ZANE

04-16-2000 18:57:45




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 Re: Re: Re: 2N Lift Arms Sluggish in reply to Old George with brain damage, 04-16-2000 16:37:34  
I know what you mean about reading the subject line. I fixed an NAA for about half an hour one night on the board and then somebody told me it was a 2N. Wonder if that guy is still scratching his head?:-)



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Old George

04-16-2000 03:54:34




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 Re: 2N Lift Arms Sluggish in reply to berrygrower, 04-15-2000 21:52:48  
Judy,
Welcome to the wonderful world of N tractors! When the doctor, Zane that is, reads your post he will probably be able to tell you what you need to do. But it would help if you can tell him what model tractor you have. Be patient as the "experts" are not always online but will eventually get back with you. You are at the right place if you own an N. The rest of you guys, watch your language, there is a lady present. ;-)

Alan Esch
45 2N 183513

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