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2n starter spins, motor does not.

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Bill

11-27-2001 16:35:00




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I just (9 hrs ago) purchased a 1945 2n. The engine is not stuck and all the necessary parts are present. when i hit the starter it turns, not a high pitch zing noise like a free spinning starter but more of a grumbling. Any ideas on what to do will be appreciated.

By the way, I paid 1350, no rust, smooth metal, poor tires, some repair to tranny case just by starter and below battery.




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ZANE

11-27-2001 17:24:31




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 Re: 2n starter spins, motor does not. in reply to Bill, 11-27-2001 16:35:00  
Try jumping it off with a 12 volt battery in the following way.

If it won't start this way then it is probably the starter that is bad
When jump starting an N tractor with 12 volts it not necessary to hook the 12 volts to the 6 volts battery at all. As a matter of fact I strongly reccomend against it.
Instead hook the 12 volts directly to the frame of the tractor for the ground and with the transmission in neutral and out of the way of the wheels of the tractor so you don't get run over touch the other cable from the 12 volt source to the post on the starter.
By doing it this way you don't even have to worry about the polarity of the batterys or which cable you have to ground or positive to the frame or the starter as the 6 volt systme is not intered into at all with the 12 volts. Just turn on the switch and touch the hot cable to the starter post and it will go.

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Bill

11-27-2001 17:42:51




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 Re: Re: 2n starter spins, motor does not. in reply to ZANE, 11-27-2001 17:24:31  
Just tried the jumper cable manuver. Nothing. Yet, by pushing the button in front of the gear shift the starter grumbles along. Any ideas on this?



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DavidO

11-28-2001 05:57:59




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 Re: Re: Re: 2n starter spins, motor does not. in reply to Bill, 11-27-2001 17:42:51  
Something doesn't jive here. If the starter turns by pushing the starter button, it will definitely turn using the jumper method that Zane provided. Seems like you were not using a good 12V source or you were not making the proper connections. If the points to hook to are not clear, you could hook the 12V source directly to the 6 V battery observing pos to pos and neg to neg FOR A SHORT TIME ONLY, just to do a quick test. If you are not comfortable with how to hook it up, try to get some local help or ask very specific questions here and we will help you get it right. Good Luck.

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Bill

11-27-2001 17:20:36




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 Re: 2n starter spins, motor does not. in reply to Bill, 11-27-2001 16:35:00  
I have read the archives. I am "going in" tomorrow. I really hope it is the starter and not the ring gear. However, I tend to think my luck has run out.



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Paul Haas - Pine Island MN

11-27-2001 17:30:02




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 Re: Re: 2n starter spins, motor does not. in reply to Bill, 11-27-2001 17:20:36  
If the ring gear is spinning but otherwise okay you might be able to tack weld it in place.



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Bill-Orono, MN

11-27-2001 17:47:08




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 Re: Re: Re: 2n starter spins, motor does not. in reply to Paul Haas - Pine Island MN, 11-27-2001 17:30:02  
how do you check to see if ring gear is spinning? Do you pull the starter, mark gear and adjacent flywheel, reassemble, and try starter, pull starter and then take a look.

I know, whaa whaa. Who knew a 66 year old would need such attention. (ha!)



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WHAA WHAA-----DON TX

11-27-2001 20:52:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 2n starter spins, motor does not. in reply to Bill-Orono, MN, 11-27-2001 17:47:08  
Just shows your a kid at heart. (<-:) Try moving the ring gear with a screwdriver. DON TX



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